Hello Don,

Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 05:07:07 -0400, Don <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

A great example of how C syntax is hurting us.
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I found this bit of code in std.container, inside BinaryHeap:
size_t insert(ElementType!Store value)
{
static if (is(_store.insertBack(value)))
{
...
}
else ...
What does the static if do? It's *intended* to check if _store has a
member function insertBack(), which accepts type of a 'value'.

But instead, it ALWAYS silently does the 'else' clause.
Unless _store.insertBack is a valid *type*, (eg, alias int
insertBack;).
In which case it gives an error "declaration value is already
defined".
I'm really confused here.  I could have sworn I've seen compile time
checks like this everywhere.  Is the "bug" that's unflagged by the
compiler that you are missing a typeof(...)?

Yes.

Why?

This happens because
x(y); is valid C syntax for declaring a type 'y', such that &y is of
type  'x function()'.
Wait, I thought when declaring a function pointer, you had to have
the (*) in there?  Plus I thought you had to have an extra set of
parentheses?  I've never seen this before.

Trying...

Oh, that's freaking awful.  x(y); silently compiles into something
useless, you need to declare it with a typedef in order to use it
(and even then, it's horrible).  It's like accepting the line

int;

Yes, 100% agree, get rid of this.  Does that mean we need to get rid
of C-style function pointer declarations?  Because I recently saw a
use for them (deciphering C-style function pointer syntax).

I agree, I use it for the same thing. In the patch, I made C-style
function pointers deprecated (so you can still compile it with the -d
switch) and C-style abominable x(y) types illegal.

I would expect that it always remains a deprecated syntax, to aid
conversion of C-style code. But in my experience, you always want to
get rid of them eventually.


I.e. the use of C-style function pointer syntax is deprecated, the syntax it self is not. Got it, nice.
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