On 2010-11-10 00:00, Walter Bright wrote:
Tobias Pfaff wrote:
1. Bitter fighting about a possible non-nullable type for D3(!).
Discussion style: "Noone will take away my right to write unsafe code
!" vs. "Down with the reckless cowboy coders". Are we discussing guns
or coding here?
That, and purposedly overhearing the other's real point.
I don't know that it's bitter, "spirited" might be a better term. I like
spirited discussions.
2. Tango vs. Phobos. Wow. I really really wished we were over that by
now. It's been like two years since I last looked in here, and still
the same thing.
So, while I like the language and will probably stick around here
anyway, it might me a good thing to avoid this experience for other
people interested in D peeking into the newsgroup. Also, with (2), I
don't really get the point here. Whatever exactly happend between the
tango/phobos fraction -- the best thing to do to get everyone on board
again is probably to just to make phobos2 a library everyone enjoys to
use. And avoid starting discussions on who did what wrong over and over.
And while still lacking a few of the high-level features of Tango
(higher level network, streaming, etc.) it feels like the direction is
right.
I agree. The reasons for the Tango split long ago, whatever the merit of
those reasons was, have long since passed. Producing another
incompatible split with D2 will not be of an advantage to anyone, and
will just give people reasons not to use D at all.
Jacob has recently decided to help out with improvements to druntime; I
take that as a very welcome sign towards ending the differences.
I don't want to increase any separation in the D community and would
hope peoeple could agree more. I have no problems what so ever
contributing both to Tango and Phobos/druntime. And I'm happy to license
any of my code to whatever license would be need for a give D project.
With all that been said, I'm looking forward to using D for a while,
after fighting the C++ template code monster for the last years.
Great!
--
/Jacob Carlborg
