Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote: > On 12/18/10 3:44 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: > > On 12/18/2010 03:16 PM, Don wrote: > >> Jeff Nowakowski wrote: > >>> D2 has *never* been officially released (like D1 was), though its > >>> release was supposed to coincide with the release of Andrei's book. > >> > >> Where did you get that idea? I've never heard it before. > >> (Genuine question, I'd like to know where that impression came from). > > > > Which idea are you questioning? That D2 hasn't been "released", or that > > the two were supposed to come out together? The answer to both would be > > the newsgroup. > > > > There was plenty of talk about them coming out together, and then time > > went by, and Andrei's book was relatively quietly released (unless I > > missed some big announcement; my memory was of posts trickling in of > > people who had pre-ordered), and no mention was made of D2 being > > released any more along with the book. > > > > I can dig up posts if you like, but I'd rather not unless any of this is > > in dispute. > > I don't think it's worth investigating this, but at any rate my thinking > has been that finalizing TDPL would finalize the specification of D2. Of > course, ideally the compiler would follow the specification as closely > as possible, but with the number of extant issues it has always been > pretty clear that conformance will be trailing. > > The book hasn't been released quietly at all; I've sent numerous updates > to this group (just search for TDPL in the title) and my website has > made the event as prominent as it could. As it was clearly highly > anticipated in this group, laying it any thicker would have been > inappropriate. > > >>> Walter and Andrei haven't been very honest in their presentations on > >>> the state of the language. > >> > >> I think the initial estimate of how long things would take was wildly > >> optimistic. I am certain that there's been no intention to be dishonest, > >> at any stage. > > > > Andrei gives other people a lot of shit over only showing the positive > > in their presentations. Both Andrei and Walter have misrepresented the > > open source compiler issues on their slides (and Walter had no excuse > > after Andrei was called for it on the newsgroup). > > > > I saw Andrei's Google presentation and he talked a lot about D2 features > > and gave away a lot of books, but never once said that D2 was still > > being implemented and that serious bugs remained. > > A fair point. Well I didn't give away "a lot" of books, I gave three, > and specifically for the three most embarrassing questions. (My budget > of giveaway books is fairly limited.)
Does this mean that Facebook is not paying you that well, after all? I could donate like $82 to you to give away three more books. No need to mention my name, after all I'm just helping the poor.