On 1/18/11 9:46 PM, Steven Wawryk wrote:
On 19/01/11 13:53, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
My response of Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:58:43 -0600 was a fair attempt at a
response. If you found that dismissive, I'd be hard pressed to improve
it. To quote myself:
I believe the proposed scheme:
1. Changes the language in a major way;
2. Is highly disruptive;
3. Improves the status quo in only minor ways.
I'd be much more willing to improve things by e.g. defining the
representation() function I talked about a bit ago, and other less
disruptive additions.
That took into consideration your amendments.
I don't think that it did. I proposed no language change, nor anything
disruptive.
Adding a new string type would be disruptive. Unless I misunderstood,
there is still a new string type in Steve's proposal, and one that would
be the default one, even after the amendments you mentioned. That is a
problem because people write this:
auto s = "hello";
and the question is, what is the type of s.
The change in status quo I proposed was essentially the same
one you encouraged here, about a type that gives the user the choice of
what kind of range to be operated on. It appears to me that you were
responding to some perception you had about Steve's full proposal (that
may have been triggered by something I said in the introduction), not
what I actually said in the content.
If that's what it is, great. To clarify: no new string type, only a
range that iterates one grapheme over existing strings.
So, I would still be interested to know how to sound out this newsgroup
with an idea (before coding commitment) and have the suggestions
considered on something more than a superficial level.
Is the newsgroup too busy? Should there be people nominated to screen
ideas that are worth looking at? Should I use a completely different
approach? Your suggestions so far I will take into account, but it still
looks like there's a barrier to me.
My perception is that you want to minimize risks before starting to
invest work into this. I'm not sure how you can do that.
Andrei
