On 8/23/11 12:32 PM, Don wrote:
foobar wrote:
== Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s
article
On 8/23/11 6:15 AM, foobar wrote:
== Quote from bearophile (bearophileh...@lycos.com)'s article
foobar:
you raise a valid concern but this looks too complicated.
I'd suggest to simplify into only two cases.

// 1) T.INIT - as you suggested the dimension should be checked
auto foo = new int[][](10, 20); // correct
auto foo1 = new int[][](10); // compilation error
Keep in mind that currently this is correct and it generates a 1D
dynamic array:
auto v = new int[10];
Isn't this an inconsistency in the language?

// Generally speaking, allocates an instance of T on the heap
auto foo = new T;

However, "int[10]" and "new int[10]" are different types.
I hate that, too. Walter hates it, too, but we both reckon it's too late
now to change things. It makes it impossible to create an instance of
the type "int[10]" dynamically because of an gratuitous syntactic
special case. It comes from C++, where it was an unforced error.
Andrei

Is it possible to deprecate/disallow "new T[size]" since we have an
alternate
syntax for it? At least until D3 comes along when we could change
this. This also
aligns with your goal of moving built-in types from the
compiler/runtime to the
library (AAs..) which I think is an important goal.
I'd like to see dynamic arrays as well as AAs as plain templates in
phobos and D
itself only provides a thin layer of syntax sugar for literals and such.

Please note that moving AAs from built-in to library was little short of
a disaster, as far as the compiler is concerned. It created a horrific
number of regression bugs (more than 20% of all serious regressions have
been caused by it), it's occupied months of time, the job is still only
half done, and as far as I can see, there's actually been ZERO benefit
from it.

We're not seeing benefits because they haven't materialized yet; the benefit so far is that it paves the way toward finalizing the transition. But point taken about the difficulties.

Andrei

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