On 2012-02-08 00:32, Sean Kelly wrote:
On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Manu wrote:

On 8 February 2012 00:33, Sean Kelly<s...@invisibleduck.org>  wrote:
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Oliver Puerto wrote:

Hello,

I'm very new to D. Just started reading "The D programming language". I should 
read it from beginning to end before posting questions here. I know ... But I'm just too 
impatient. The issue seems not to be that simple, nevertheless. The code below compiles 
with Visual Studio.

I want to have something like my actor class that I can start running in it's 
own thread like in Scala or other languages that support actors. So at best, I 
would like to do something like this:

    MyActor myActor = new MyActor();
    auto tid = spawn(&start,&myActor.run());

This should work:

void runActor(shared MyActor a) { (cast(MyActor)a)).run(); }
MyActor myActor = new MyActor();
auto tid = spawn(cast(shared MyActor) myActor,&runActor);

See, my conclusion is, whenever using this API, you inevitably have dog ugly 
code. That code is barely readable through the casts... I can only draw this up 
to faulty API design.
I understand the premise of 'shared'-ness that the API is trying to 
assert/guarantee, but the concept is basically broken in the language. You 
can't use this API at all with out these blind casts, which is, basically, a 
hack, and I am yet to see an example of using this API 'properly'. The casts 
are totally self defeating.

In this case, an alternative would be to create the actor in the spawned thread:

void run() {
     auto a = new Actor;
     a.run();
}
spawn(&run);

Regarding shared as it applies to classes… one reason it hasn't been built out 
in druntime yet is because the original intent was for shared methods to 
basically end up with compiler-generated memory barriers all over the place and 
this was sufficiently unappealing that I didn't want to support it.  As far as 
I'm aware, this is no longer planned, but the transitivity of shared can still 
make for some weirdness at the implementation level.  For example, if I have:

Then what's "shared" supposed to do?

--
/Jacob Carlborg

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