On 8/10/2012 1:38 AM, F i L wrote:
Walter Bright wrote:
3. Floating point values are default initialized to NaN.

This isn't a good feature, IMO. C# handles this much more conveniently with just
as much optimization/debugging benefit (arguably more so, because it catches NaN
issues at compile-time). In C#:

     class Foo
     {
         float x; // defaults to 0.0f

         void bar()
         {
             float y; // doesn't default
             y ++; // ERROR: use of unassigned local

             float z = 0.0f;
             z ++; // OKAY
         }
     }

This is the same behavior for any local variable,

It catches only a subset of these at compile time. I can craft any number of ways of getting it to miss diagnosing it. Consider this one:

    float z;
    if (condition1)
         z = 5;
    ... lotsa code ...
    if (condition2)
         z++;

To diagnose this correctly, the static analyzer would have to determine that condition1 produces the same result as condition2, or not. This is impossible to prove. So the static analyzer either gives up and lets it pass, or issues an incorrect diagnostic. So our intrepid programmer is forced to write:

    float z = 0;
    if (condition1)
         z = 5;
    ... lotsa code ...
    if (condition2)
         z++;

Now, as it may turn out, for your algorithm the value "0" is an out-of-range, incorrect value. Not a problem as it is a dead assignment, right?

But then the maintenance programmer comes along and changes condition1 so it is not always the same as condition2, and now the z++ sees the invalid "0" value sometimes, and a silent bug is introduced.

This bug will not remain undetected with the default NaN initialization.


so where in D you need to
explicitly set variables to 'void' to avoid assignment costs,

This is incorrect, as the optimizer is perfectly capable of removing dead assignments like:

   f = nan;
   f = 0.0f;

The first assignment is optimized away.

> I just think D's has other, much better advertising points that this one.

Whether you agree with it being a good feature or not, it is a feature unique to D and merits discussion when talking about D's suitability for numerical programming.



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