On 11/2/12 9:53 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
On 11/02/2012 12:18 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I have a dream that one day there will be a guy with the ID
philobear discussing D-related stuff on Java and Scala forums.
You're lucky to have bearophile on this group. Cross-pollination is a
good thing.
Cross-pollination is a good thing indeed. The pattern I'm not a fan of
is posting entries scraped from reddit or google searches, featuring
little insightful filtering or added value, and with the
all-too-transparent bias "language X does/doesn't Y, we don't do/do it,
so we either should change D or agree to being troglodytes". A telling
example that got me as close to cursing to my monitor as any other forum
post is:
You should show more respect for them and their work. Their ideas
seem very far from being crazy. They have also proved their type
system to be sound. This kind of work is lightyears ahead of the
usual sloppy designs you see in D features, where design holes are
found only years later, when sometimes it's too much late to fix
them :)
In one breath we get a call to respect for people who are unknown to the
poster and unlikely to ever read this, a gratuitous insult to people who
are active on this forum and have long interacted with the poster, a
complete lack of consideration for the many differences between the
dynamics of a language design focused on one feature group in an
academic context versus the realities of designing and implementing a
general-purpose language with many conflicting requirements, and a
tactless attempt at making it look like a joke. Quite the handiwork.
A better approach would take into account the rich context established
by each language's environment and how an end goal can be accomplished
without wheelbarrowing features from other languages just because they
have them.
Andrei
