Careful, Paul, I asked these same questions and got slapped in the face and accused of all kind of things. I dont think Ron is willing to answer those simple questions, for some reason. He probably would be believed if he did, but as it is, and with his attitude, he can go it alone, as far as I am concerned. Bill
At 05:49 AM 2/18/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Ron: > >After all the noise was generated, it's time for some accountability >here. > >Can you answer a few questions?: > >1 - WHO IS BIG JON? Name, Organization, and (if a ham) Callsign. > >2 - WHO ISSUED THE INITIAL CITATION? Name, Organization, and (if a ham) >Callsign? > >Reading over the e-mails, the story starts out as the REGIONAL OFFICE >sending a CEASE AND EESIST ORDER -- >=== quoting === >Don't worry about Olivia anymore here in US at least. >The mode is not valid at this time. I'm afraid It's going the way of MIXW >Narrow band pictures,. >I received a Cease and Desist Letter from the regional office to stop >transmitting both Olivia and WinDRM. >My call has been forwarded to the FCC for using Invalid modes. > >So much for DRM and Olivia. >Maybe this time next year changes to the rules will be made. > > >Baclk to MFSK16. Olivia was fun while she lasted. >=== end quote === > >There has to be some accountability for this. > >Was this one of the stations in the ARRL Amateur Auxilliary (the >"Official Observers"), or a VE or the FCC? > >ARRL appointees are NOT free to just go around and send out cease and >desist orders. They have NO authority to do so. The can send out >advisories that indicate they believe there may be a problem -- and >that's all. If someone sent you a Cease and Desist order, it's time >to have them removed from the volunteer list. We don't need people >like that doing our volnnteer policing. > >If it was a VE, there's a bigger problem, because VE's don't have >anything to do with that... all they do is administer exams. > >It was the FCC, we need to know exactly who wrote the letter and >exactly why it was written. > >I've e-mailed you several times asking for the specifics, BECAUSE >I WAS ASKED HY RILEY HOLLINGSWORTH TO PROVIDE THEM BACK TO HIS >OFFICE and have not yet received that information. I contacted >Riley's office to get clarifcation, partially based on your postings >that the FCC had told you to stop using Olivia (and the other part, >of course, because I've been using it and wanted to verify it's OK). > >Will you PLEASE post - for the entire group to see -- EXACTLY who it >was who sent you the "Cease and Desist" order initially? > >I need to get that information back to the FCC's office. And if >it was an ARRL appointee misrepresenting himself, it's going to go >to Newington, too. > >Thanks, > >Paul / K9PS >Bloomfield, IN >Life Member, ARRL > >ronchap wrote: > > > > Got a phone call from our buddy Big Jon today. > > > > After looking over the Warning Ticket. > > He told me to just ignore it. That it was sent out by an overzealous VE > that > > had over stepped his authrity. > > My Email to the group was correct that I sent back on 2/05/05 telling > > everyone to ignore it until they we received a Registerd Letter from the > > FCC. > > > > Thanks for everyones help. > > This was greatly appreciated. This makes me feel a whole lot better that > > there are still some great Hams out there willing to help their fellow > > amatuer out. > > > > Many thanks to Paul k9ps, Bob N4YWF, Bill and Jon > > > > > > 73 > > Ron KA2HZO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ > > > > <a href="http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";><img > src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" > width="200" style="border:0" alt="Digital Spotter"/></a> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ > ><a href="http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";><img >src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" >width="200" style="border:0" alt="Digital Spotter"/></a> >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ---------------------- Spamnix Spam Report ---------------------- >SPAM: Score: 51 >SPAM: Action: None >SPAM: ------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report ------------------ Bill Aycock - W4BSG Woodville, Alabama The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ <a href="http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" width="200" style="border:0" alt="Digital Spotter"/></a> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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