Gregg,
 
Thanks for you knee-jerk response!  Which of your examples used WinLink?   Like others, in your haste to attack, you missed my main point.   In emergencies, how much traffic is passed using WinLink?  
Locally, I've been through some minor emergencies, usually the results of a passing hurricane or tornado.  Not ONCE was Winlink or any other digital mode, including CW, was used to notify  authorities or public utilities.    I used my cellphone.   And I can use my telephone when the power is out, but not my computer or WinLink.
But, we are getting away from the main issue... you do remember what it is, don't you?
 
73 Buddy WB4M
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Win Link

Buddy,
 
Great points you make there.  You are absolutely correct about technology!  I mean, they now have cellphones that don't need towers or electricity to function properly.  Cellphones always work perfect.  And telephone service, why the phone systems never fail!
 
1. 9/11/2001 - When the WTC collapsed, it took with it a majority of cellphone, public service, and broadcast transmitters with it.  In the ensuing chaos, the remaining cellphone circuits jammed within SECONDS rendering cellphone service virtually useless within 10 miles of ground zero.
 
2. The date I do not recall, but when a US Air Boeing 737 crashed while on approach to Pittsburgh International Airport the crash site was remote-enough that many of the responding fire/rescue/police units were out of range from their 800mhz trunked systems.  In addition, when they reverted to cellphone use, they found the circuits almost immediately swamped because of a lack of coverage and everyone trying to use their phones.  Commercial broadcast media urged people to avoid using cellphones - or even landlines in the area of the accident so that emergency personnel could communicate.  The crash occurred a few miles outside a fairly good sized city and only 20 miles from Downtown Pittsburgh.
 
3. Within the last 2 years, again the exact date I do not recall, a contractor accidentally cut a fiberoptic cable in a rural area between Huntington and Charleston, WV.  This cut randomly crippled local and long-distance telephone circuits in both cities for almost 8 hours.
 
Now, do I advocate a system that sometimes blocks large chunks of spectrum - absolutely not!  But if you truly believe that ham radio is useless, then please surrender your license to the FCC - you are needlessly taking-up a callsign assignment that would be used by someone else.
 
Gregg Hendry
W8DUQ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Win Link

Great overall post, Dean!  Especially this part:

>
>   1. Ham radio is dying, because modern communications technology has
>      passed it, and the amateur community, even if totally united (ha
>      ha), doesn't have the resources to combat it in any meaningful way.
>   2. The attempt to justify amateur radio by its role in providing
>      emergency and public service communications is rapidly becoming a
>      joke.

Can someone tell me the last time there was an emergency that wiped out
"normal" communications, and a bunch of hams got on Winlink and saved the
day?   When a severe emergency happens, like a tornado, hurricane, or
nuclear war,  I think most people are mainly concerned with saving their
bacon, and not getting on the air.

73 Buddy WB4M


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