After discussing this offline with Walt K5YFW, I would say that encryption on the amateur bands should only be permitted in two specific circumstances:
1. to control a remote device (e.g. a satellite) 2. during a declared emergency 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about changing "no place" to "only a limited place". > > For example, it's essential (*and currently legal*) for remote > control of things like satellites. > > And it would be nice for emergency comms -- with the health > privacy laws the way they are now, permission to pass encrypted > text between approved sources (e.g. EOC's) during emergencies > could save lives while preserving legally-protected privacy. > > And high-speed digital -- 2.4 GHz where 802.11 is license-free, > but it's also a ham band... how do you keep non-hams off of a > ham network? Limited use of encryption would help. > > Satellite control and network security would not necessarily > be obscuring as much as just forcing keys to match (only the > authentication would need to be obscured), but the case of > protecting ourselves against liability for violating health > privacy laws would definitely be obscuring. > > Dave Bernstein wrote: > > By definition, there is no other purpose to encryption other than > > obscuring meaning. . From Wikipedia, > > > > "In cryptography, encryption is the process of obscuring information > > to make it unreadable without special knowledge." > > > > If you're referring to encoding or other forms of transformation > > required by modulation and demodulation processes, these are not > > considered encryption since anyone can decode them. > > > > 73, > > > > Dave, AA6YQ > > > >>Dave, > >> > >> Allow me to take issue with you...encryption for the purpose of > >> obscuring > >> the meaning of the information transmitted has no place on the > >> amateur bands. > >> > >>Walt/K5YFW > >> > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/