Hello Dave,

Well I often miss alot,  but think that there is no FCC allocation 
for "semi-automatic" (or automatic) operations on 80 meters after the 
15th in the US....wideband or not. See nothing in 97.221 that limits 
this restriction to only 500 Hz and greater modes. As far as I know, 
and I could well be incorrect, the FCC made no provisions at all in 
the omnibus ruling to address the total deletion of the "semi-
automatic" subband. 

73

Bill N9DSJ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 97.221 limits 80m automatic operation with more than 500 hz 
bandwidth 
> to 3.620-3.635; for verification, see
> 
> http://www.w5yi.org/page.php?id=136
> 
> As far as I know, 97.221 was not changed in the recent FCC action. 
> Anyone have hard evidence to the contrary?
> 
> If so, there will be no automatic or semi-automatic US stations 
> running wideband digital protocols on 80m after December 15 -- 
> reducing the contention for frequencies below 3600.
> 
> I don't know how much automatic operation there is at 500 hz 
> bandwidth, but 3595 to 3600 seems like a good spot for it.
> 
>    73,
> 
>        Dave, AA6YQ
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jewell <ae6vw-
> digitalradio@> wrote:
> >
> > expeditionradio writes:
> > [snipped]
> >  > Let's be blunt together, but let's focus on the topic instead 
of
> >  > personality. The fact is, there's a proposed solution on the 
> table. If
> >  > you have a truly constructive suggestion, let's hear it. 
Sexist 
> or
> >  > condescending remarks do nothing to advance the discussion. 
> > 
> > Right on target.  The other posters' remarks strike me as 
> regrettably
> > personal and non-constructive.  Below are my comments on the 
> proposal.
> > 
> > [snipped]
> >  > 80 meter Bandplan 2007 for USA:
> >  > ==========================
> >  > ========================
> >  > 3500-3540 = CW
> >  > 3540-3560 = Any Mode, 500Hz Bandwidth
> >  > 3560-3600 = Any Mode
> > 
> > 
> > Given what the FCC has done to 80 meters, nobody is going to get
> > everything they'd like out of any new USA band plan.  Still, it 
> seems
> > to me that as advocates for the data modes, we are more likely to
> > obtain the cooperation and agreement of those with whom we share
> > 3500-3600 KHz if our proposals leave half of the new band for the 
> CW ops.
> > Accordingly, while I can live with Bonnie's suggestion as 
> presented, I
> > suggest moving the boundaries up by 10 KHz.
> > 
> > 3500-3550 = CW
> > 3550-3570 = Any mode up to 500Hz bandwidth
> > 3570-3600 = Any mode
> > 
> > That gives general and advanced CW ops 25 KHz of mode-exclusive 
> space
> > instead of 15, and extras 50 KHz instead of 40.  It still leaves 
> room
> > for about 12 concurrent 2.5 KHz-wide data-mode QSOs above 3570, 
or 
> 10
> > if the wide mode operation are assumed to occupy 3KHz each.  I 
think
> > that's enough.  (Of course, I *would* think that, since I'm not 
much
> > interested in wide data modes below 10M. <grin>)
> > 
> > Now let's move all of the keyboarding frequencies up by 10 Khz 
from
> > Bonnie's proposals:
> > 
> >  > PSK31 = 3545kHz USB (3545.3-3548.0 kHz)
> > 
> > PSK31 = 3555kHz USB (3555.3-3558.0 kHz)
> > 
> >  > QPSK31/PSK63/125 = 3547kHz USB (3547.3-3550.0 kHz)
> > 
> > QPSK31/PSK63/125 = 3557kHz USB (3557.3-3560.0 kHz)
> > 
> >  > MFSK = 3548kHz USB (3548.3-3551.0 kHz)
> > 
> > MFSK = 3558kHz USB (3558.3-3561.0 kHz)
> > 
> >  > OLIVIA500 = 3549kHz USB (3549.3-3553.0 kHz)
> > 
> > OLIVIA500 = 3559kHz USB (3559.3-3563.0 kHz)
> > 
> >  > CONTESTIA/DOMINO, etc = 3550kHz USB (3550.3-3554.0 kHz)
> > 
> > CONTESTIA/DOMINO, etc = 3560kHz USB (3560.3-3564.0 kHz)
> > 
> >  > HELL/FMHELL = 3552kHz USB (3552.3-3555 kHz)
> > 
> > HELL/FMHELL = 3562kHz USB (3562.3-3565 kHz)
> > 
> >  > RTTY/FSK = 3555+ (3555.3-3565 kHz)
> > 
> > RTTY/FSK = 3565+ (3565.3-3575 kHz)
> > 
> >  > PAX/MT63/OLIVIA1000 = 3560kHz USB (3560.5-3563)
> > 
> > PAX/MT63/OLIVIA1000 = 3570kHz USB (3570.5-3573)
> > 
> > As always, the CW folks, when they need elbow room, are free to 
move
> > up the band, but we can at least hope that they will go fight it 
out
> > with the Pactor3/Winlink crowd at the top of the band, rather 
with 
> the
> > experimenters and narrow-mode operators in between.
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> > -- 
> > 73 DE KW6H, ex-AE6VW, Chris Jewell  Gualala CA USA
> >
>


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