Hello Dave, Well I often miss alot, but think that there is no FCC allocation for "semi-automatic" (or automatic) operations on 80 meters after the 15th in the US....wideband or not. See nothing in 97.221 that limits this restriction to only 500 Hz and greater modes. As far as I know, and I could well be incorrect, the FCC made no provisions at all in the omnibus ruling to address the total deletion of the "semi- automatic" subband.
73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 97.221 limits 80m automatic operation with more than 500 hz bandwidth > to 3.620-3.635; for verification, see > > http://www.w5yi.org/page.php?id=136 > > As far as I know, 97.221 was not changed in the recent FCC action. > Anyone have hard evidence to the contrary? > > If so, there will be no automatic or semi-automatic US stations > running wideband digital protocols on 80m after December 15 -- > reducing the contention for frequencies below 3600. > > I don't know how much automatic operation there is at 500 hz > bandwidth, but 3595 to 3600 seems like a good spot for it. > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jewell <ae6vw- > digitalradio@> wrote: > > > > expeditionradio writes: > > [snipped] > > > Let's be blunt together, but let's focus on the topic instead of > > > personality. The fact is, there's a proposed solution on the > table. If > > > you have a truly constructive suggestion, let's hear it. Sexist > or > > > condescending remarks do nothing to advance the discussion. > > > > Right on target. The other posters' remarks strike me as > regrettably > > personal and non-constructive. Below are my comments on the > proposal. > > > > [snipped] > > > 80 meter Bandplan 2007 for USA: > > > ========================== > > > ======================== > > > 3500-3540 = CW > > > 3540-3560 = Any Mode, 500Hz Bandwidth > > > 3560-3600 = Any Mode > > > > > > Given what the FCC has done to 80 meters, nobody is going to get > > everything they'd like out of any new USA band plan. Still, it > seems > > to me that as advocates for the data modes, we are more likely to > > obtain the cooperation and agreement of those with whom we share > > 3500-3600 KHz if our proposals leave half of the new band for the > CW ops. > > Accordingly, while I can live with Bonnie's suggestion as > presented, I > > suggest moving the boundaries up by 10 KHz. > > > > 3500-3550 = CW > > 3550-3570 = Any mode up to 500Hz bandwidth > > 3570-3600 = Any mode > > > > That gives general and advanced CW ops 25 KHz of mode-exclusive > space > > instead of 15, and extras 50 KHz instead of 40. It still leaves > room > > for about 12 concurrent 2.5 KHz-wide data-mode QSOs above 3570, or > 10 > > if the wide mode operation are assumed to occupy 3KHz each. I think > > that's enough. (Of course, I *would* think that, since I'm not much > > interested in wide data modes below 10M. <grin>) > > > > Now let's move all of the keyboarding frequencies up by 10 Khz from > > Bonnie's proposals: > > > > > PSK31 = 3545kHz USB (3545.3-3548.0 kHz) > > > > PSK31 = 3555kHz USB (3555.3-3558.0 kHz) > > > > > QPSK31/PSK63/125 = 3547kHz USB (3547.3-3550.0 kHz) > > > > QPSK31/PSK63/125 = 3557kHz USB (3557.3-3560.0 kHz) > > > > > MFSK = 3548kHz USB (3548.3-3551.0 kHz) > > > > MFSK = 3558kHz USB (3558.3-3561.0 kHz) > > > > > OLIVIA500 = 3549kHz USB (3549.3-3553.0 kHz) > > > > OLIVIA500 = 3559kHz USB (3559.3-3563.0 kHz) > > > > > CONTESTIA/DOMINO, etc = 3550kHz USB (3550.3-3554.0 kHz) > > > > CONTESTIA/DOMINO, etc = 3560kHz USB (3560.3-3564.0 kHz) > > > > > HELL/FMHELL = 3552kHz USB (3552.3-3555 kHz) > > > > HELL/FMHELL = 3562kHz USB (3562.3-3565 kHz) > > > > > RTTY/FSK = 3555+ (3555.3-3565 kHz) > > > > RTTY/FSK = 3565+ (3565.3-3575 kHz) > > > > > PAX/MT63/OLIVIA1000 = 3560kHz USB (3560.5-3563) > > > > PAX/MT63/OLIVIA1000 = 3570kHz USB (3570.5-3573) > > > > As always, the CW folks, when they need elbow room, are free to move > > up the band, but we can at least hope that they will go fight it out > > with the Pactor3/Winlink crowd at the top of the band, rather with > the > > experimenters and narrow-mode operators in between. > > > > Comments? > > > > -- > > 73 DE KW6H, ex-AE6VW, Chris Jewell Gualala CA USA > > >