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> Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: 13.01.07 02:36:52
> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia


> 
> Rein,
> 
> I am not clear on this. The B2F compression is used with Winlink 2000. I 
> am not sure what it really is other than a compression scheme to nearly 
> double plain text throughput and is some kind of adaptation to the 
> protocols that were adopted by FBB such as B1F.
> 
> Shouldn't this work with even short data packets?

It doesnŽt.  You can try this yourself by zipping one line of `quick brown 
foxesŽ, 
and you will see the compression factor is nil.

Then try to zip a  10k file full of Žquick brown foxesŽ, and see that it 
compresses to
a factor of 1:50...

> 
> If you were doing some keyboarding with an ARQ mode that was running at 
> 100 baud, like Pactor, (but could drop down according the conditions ... 
> unlike Pactor), and even if you used a cycle of 2 or 3 seconds 
> transmitting and .6 seconds open for ACK or NAK, wouldn't this still 
> work reasonably well with a throughput faster than most can keyboard? 
> And by using the B2F compression, and doubling the throughput, get 
> further enhancements?

Pskmail gets good keyboarding results even when using PSK63 ARQ , which 
gives you PSK31 typing speed. 
Rein PA0R

> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> 
> 
> Rein Couperus wrote:
> 
> >>Unfortunately this won't work. BZ2 compression is based on 'redundancy' in 
> >>a message. There is hardly any redundancy in short messages as used in 
> >>k-to-k.
> >>
> >>The only way you can do that is by using context-based compression, like 
> >>the 'context based huffman' compression in pskmail, which reaches 
> >>compression factors of 1 ... 50 : 1.
> >>
> >>Rein PA0R
> >>
> >>(by the way, it is open source).
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> Rick, KV9U had previously said:
> 
> By the way, I have often wondered why the B2F binary compression system 
> used with the Winlink 2000 system has never been used for nearly a 2:1 
> compression for improved throughput. This could be applied to any 
> system, including keyboarding.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> 
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