I guess that has kinda been my thught also.

Walt/K5YFW

KV9U wrote:
> Maybe this is a dumb question, but once someone compiles a program for 
> Linux and includes the dependencies, wouldn't this be easily shared 
> between users?
> 
> Can't they then put this in their depository for that particular Linux 
> distribution?
> 
> Even if you don't have it in your particular universe can't you use a 
> program from the multiverse. Even converting it from one of the package 
> managers to another package manager that fits your Linux distribution?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> 
> Walt DuBose wrote:
> 
> 
>>Thanks for the encouragement Frank.
>>
>>For over 2 years now Gerald had been telling me that Oh yes the SDR-1000 was 
>>going to be supported by Linux.
>>
>>As I told Dave, W1HJK, in a private E-Mail and I was going to address Andy's 
>>and 
>>Roger Rehr's comment.  For those of us who eun Linux either just because its 
>>different or have been using it for years or hate MS or a hundred other 
>>reasons, 
>>I think that it would be nice to make amateru radio applications as simple to 
>>run under Linux as most MS amateur radio applications are under MS.
>>
>>
>><skip down seven paragraphs to leave out my history>
>>
>>But let me tell you where I'm coming from...
>>
>>I have been doind tactical HF communications for over 30 years, the last 8 on 
>>my 
>>own supporting the local office of emergency management and a disaster relief 
>>organization.  Before that I was doing tactical HF communications for the Air 
>>Force and spend a tour in Saudi during Desert Shiled and Storm as chief of 
>>communications for the aeromedical evecuation effort.   They had through that 
>>time only used HF and has just started using data mixed with voice a couple 
>>of 
>>years before Desert Shield started in August of 1990.
>>
>>I had worked in my civilian job with the Air Force as an IT procurement 
>>analyst 
>>and ran the a huge E-Mail system using 10 AT&T 3B2 computers and then the 
>>first 
>>Air Force electronic commerce web site.  A friend and one of my technical 
>>support persons suggested that I load Linux on a 386 PC and run multiple 
>>desktops rather than have 10 monitors on my desk.  That was August of 1991. 
>>From the 3B2s we went to web servers using medium  size Sun servers and Linux 
>>workstations.
>>
>>I never was anything but a Linux user and never got much into configuring 
>>Linux, 
>>etc.
>>
>>When I left that job in 1999, I went to another base that ran MS clients and 
>>servers.  I have now over 150 MS clients and 6 MS servers to baby sit.
>>
>>I have had to load NT on all of our clients and servers, then W2K and last 
>>time 
>>XP on the clients.  The servers still run W2K server.
>>
>>I can truthfully say that loading MS is a breeze...but having to load Linux 
>>on 
>>10 different personal computers with the last two, one being Mandrake and one 
>>(the last one) being SuSe 9.?, I find that loading them NO problem but runing 
>>amateur radio applications a real pain when compaired to MS applications.
>>
>><End my history>
>>
>>I believe that this is why so many hams have an objection to Linux.  I find 
>>myself coming home and wanting to operate HF data modes and not having to 
>>fool 
>>around for days trying to get an applications to work or load various 
>>libraries, 
>>etc.
>>
>>So without pointing any fingers at the amateur radio community...since this 
>>IS 
>>for most of us a "hobby" or perhaps a "love affair", it would be nice to have 
>>Linux applications that are easy to load and run withour compiling and go out 
>>and find various different dependencies.
>>
>>I think the latest and very fine example of the sort of amateur radio 
>>applications I have loaded is Fldigi by Dave, W1HKJ.  Now my Mandarake distro 
>>is 
>>so old I need to update one library but that's not really a problem or a 
>>fault 
>>of the applications.
>>
>>And peaking of fine amateur radio things, the theory and construction of the 
>>SDR-1000 is super.  For the amateur radio operator I believe that it is and 
>>will 
>>be a leader in the change from the typical radios we have available no to 
>>amateur radio operators to SDR radios.  Perhaps even a more important step 
>>than 
>>the Central Electronics 10A/B and 20A/B transmitter and the Drake 2B receiver 
>>and Gonset GSB-100 transmitter.
>>
>>I believe that we will see building block SDR radios.  Perhaps a case with a 
>>number of card slots and you plug in SDR component block cards and build you 
>>custom SDR radio.
>>
>>I also look for the same sort of approach for PSK and other data mode radios 
>>that are small and portable and replace the current number of QRP rigs.
>>
>>Further, I can see building custom high power amplifiers around various 
>>amplfier 
>>modules.
>>
>>All these thing will not only bring amateur radio back int the lime light in 
>>communications services but also spur iondividuals to get back into the rig 
>>building mode and since many of you have such great talent in programming 
>>that 
>>you can help us by building modular applications and show is the code and 
>>explain to us how it works so we can modify it such as Skip Teller did with 
>>PSK63 and whomever created PSK125 and like Merray and group did with MFSK-16 
>>and 
>>all the other new modes.  We need to be able to run them and do lots of beta 
>>testing and find out which ones work the best.
>>
>>So I AM frustrated righ now with how Linux is being presented to amateur 
>>radio 
>>but know that the talent is out there...many on this list, who have the 
>>capability so put forth simple code and OF's like me can customize 
>>applications.
>>
>>I am counting on everyone's individual talents be they programmer, builder, 
>>operator, etc to work in concert to being amateur radio into the leading edge 
>>of 
>>communications in the 21st Century and especially in the HF data transmission 
>>area.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Walt/K5YFW
>

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