Rick,

I agree with what you are saying. I guess that no one really realized what 
would happen when the FCC allowed this. But I still say that most of the 
traffic that goes through the system right now is needless. With all the 
communications out there, internet, cell phones and the like it should not be 
allowed on the ham bands.

Joe
W4JSI

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kv9u 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz Freq Coordination Info


  Joe,

  I think it is fair to say that the primary reason was that when we first 
  came up with these technologies, the promoters and users lobbied heavily 
  to get FCC approval. I believe that you will find that the ARRL was 
  influential in getting the rules changed to allow this. There was a very 
  great deal of discussion on this at the time. I think it is also fair to 
  say that most hams were opposed to allowing automatic control on the HF 
  bands.

  The compromise was that the semi-automatic stations would be able to 
  place their stations anyplace in the text data areas of the bands 
  providing that their bandwidth was kept to 500 Hz or less. If they were 
  fully automatic, they had to stay in the narrow "automatic" portions of 
  the bands.If they were semi-automatic, but over 500 Hz in width, then 
  they had to also operate only in "automatic" areas. This was done 
  primarily to accomodate Pactor 3.

  While there are no more FCC declared emergency portions of the bands, 
  good amateur practice is to stay away from those areas once you become 
  aware of their existence. Emergency nets are often formed to handle 
  potential traffic, but it would not mean that they are formed for 
  emergency traffic only. Most would not be emergency, but there might be 
  some priority and heath and welfare traffic.

  E-mail access via HF has been in place for many years and is a "done 
  deal" here in the U.S. I don't see any practical way to stop it now 
  without a huge groundswell from the amateur community and that doesn't 
  seem likely. If you want HF to e-mail to be available for emergency use 
  or for providing messaging from disaster areas, it has to be something 
  that is available and frequently used by the hams who will try to gain 
  access during difficult times. Speaking from experience with Winlink and 
  the earlier Aplink system (not the same as Winlink 2000), it is not 
  always that easy to gain access to these HF systems at the time you 
  might want it.

  My belief is that there needs to be many, many, HF servers available, 
  preferably on the 160/80/40/30 meter bands so that a server can be 
  accessed from most locations when you need to access them. While I have 
  been told by the owner that this is not possible for the Winlink 2000 
  system, it certainly could be for a narrow mode system, such as PSKmail, 
  which does not have the weakness of the underlying infrastructure of 
  Winlink 2000. And does not use such wide bandwidths.

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  Joe Ivey wrote:
  > I have yet to understand why the FCC allowed automatic stations on the 
  > ham bands in the first place. I hate to see ham radio being used as an 
  > internet email service that in 99% of the case the mail is not related 
  > to ham radio.
  > 
  > I think that 99% of the ham support handling emergency traffic and 
  > would stay clear of any frequency that was being used for such a 
  > purpose. A lot of people including hams do not really understand the 
  > term "emergency traffic". Simply put it means the threat to life, 
  > injury. and property. 99.99% of all emergencies are confined to a 
  > general local area. It very rare that one needs to send traffic from 
  > the west coast to the east coast or Washington DC. Ham radio serves a 
  > great purpose in these cases and we as operators should help out when 
  > we are needed. But for someone out in his boat just wanting to check 
  > is email should not be allowed on the ham bands.
  > 
  > My 2 cents worth.
  > 
  > Joe
  > W4JSI
  > 



   

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