--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W <mrf...@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Clover 2000 (circa 1995) is a wide bandwidth version of Clover II (circa 
> 1992) and is may be used by a few agencies. It uses proprietary 
> hardware/firmware similar to Pactor 2 and 3 with 8 tones at a baud rate 
> of 62.5. I don't know if it is still used by American Red Cross, but at 
> one time they were advertised as using it. The modem cost in 2007 was 
> $1500, so it is not something you would find on the ham bands unless 
> someone had it available to them from some other source. HAL sells  
> Clover Mail software, but this is very expensive, like most HAL 
> products, and probably is intended between two users.
> 
> Winlink 2000 is "system" of various protocols that can be used on VHF 
> using packet radio, or HF using Pactor. Clover II used to be used along 
> with Pactor on the Winlink world wide HF BBS system, but this was phased 
> out when they transitioned to the Winlink 2000 e-mail system.
> 
> So Clover 2000 is more of a hardware/firmware modem and Winlink 2000 is 
> a system using several protocols although the proprietary HF modems are 
> quite costly. A new sound card approach is being developed, but is not 
> yet ready for deployment.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> 
> scottfike71 wrote:
> >  I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between two global HF 
> > e-mail systems and need some help. What is the advantages and disadvantages 
> > and differences between CLOVER 2000 and WINLINK 2000? Why would I invest in 
> > a CLOVER 2000 setup versus a WINLINK 2000 setup? Any and all comments 
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > KC0BUS
> >
> >
> >
>
 So, from what you are saying, it sounds to me like with a CLOVER 2000 setup 
there needs to be two users with the same HAL modem and same HAL e-mail 
software, and only then they can pass e-mail back and forth to each other only 
and not to and from the internet? 

 With such a setup, can one user forward an e-mail from his buddy onto the 
internet some way?

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