There are a few of us K/VE stations which use both ALE400 and 141A for
chats. They are both great modes (multiPSK version)

and fun to use. So far I have not found any useful function for PC-ALE , but
am looking forward to giving MARS-ALE a shot.

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Phil Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:09 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Getting serious about ALE for non-encomm digital
hamming

 

  

Ok, I am game. 

 

 I've had two QSO via ALE400 w/ the same station that's it.

 

I have an old FT-1000 this is supposed to have a CAT interface but never
checked it out.

 

If I am unable to scan, I still want to participate to at least make some
progress in realizing the potential for this mode.

 

I have played around with 141A.  The only thing I could accomplish was
seeing my self heard by other stations via soundings. Never did connect to a
live person.  I am sure there is more to the mode than I realize but, I
personally found the experience to be a complete bore. 

 

We do we begin?

 

philw de ka1gmn

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Andy obrien <k3uka...@gmail.com> wrote:

  

As I read and view all kinds of web sites (including my own) that
assist digital mode enthusiasts in "spotting" other stations that my
be active on a particular band and looking for a QSO, I can't help but
return to the subject of ALE, Automatic Link Establishment. While
standard ALE's default digital calling mode is not super robust , ALE
software generally does a good job of detecting a call and pausing a
scan. While standard ALE's default digital mode is not always
effective for keyboard QSOs (compared to other modes) it can be very
effective for achieving a goal of ALE that many seem to have
forgotten... namely establishing a link and then switching to a mode
better suited for the current conditions.

Picture this..

1. instead of going to a website or cluster-type web page to see if
anyone is looking for a QSO , you call on a designated frequency
(after listening first!) using ALE and carefully timed/synchronized
features of ALE software ensure that hundreds of other scanning
stations ,within range, can hear your call (CQ) . The other
station's ALE software pauses a multi-band scan the moment it hears
your call and (if you are in the shack) your station automatically
answer the call . The responding stations tell you that they have
good copy and the two of you then switch to PSK31 for an armchair copy
QSO.

2. Instead of wondering if your friend P5DX is active tonight and
going to a spotting network to find out, you place a call to that
station and the ALE software tries several bands automatically for
you, using the best band for current conditions based on past
reception of that friend's callsign. After a few tries, your friend
is found on 30Ms. You use standard ALE to keyboard for a while and
then QSY down the band and use CW.

3. Or perhaps you have a GROUP of friends at varying locations , you
just wonder if any of the group are active tonight. Using ALE
software your station calls each of your friends from a pre-programmed
list. The call is based on pre-establish priorities and call-order.
Two of your group of six friends turn out to be "QRV" and your ALE
software find them and links you together. Once linked you switch to
Olivia 500 and have round table keyboard "QSO"

All of the above is easily achieved using standard ALE (or ALE400) and
PC-ALE or Multipsk software. It is NOT easily achieved today because
ALE is still used only by a small group of hams. My estimate is less
than 50 hams world wide and many of them are not "live in the shack".
For steps 1-3 above to be achieved and fully realized, we really need
more hams to use ALE as a live , attended, mode and many more to use
the ALE scanning methods to find QSOs. Simple beginning steps like
using ALE software and scanning the bands for 30 minutes while
checking your email ,or updating your logbook , can could increase
ALE and enable digital hams to get more use out of it. Calling up a
"net" of hams friends or calling CQ via ALE every now and then would
also create more interest.

One positive step would be the creation of groups of hams from this
mail list that could form regional nets, just to find each other and
have QSOs when the mood strikes.

So, is this just stupid rambling thoughts ? Cnn ALE be resurrected
and re-packaged in a manner that it can flourish beyond an emcomm
option ?

Andy K3UK

 



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