In a DX pileup, calling on the same frequency that someone else is calling generally results in neither of you getting through, particularly if you are using a digital mode. The idea is to
1. understand the range of frequencies in which the DX station is listening 2. crop your callsign into a "hole" in this range so that it will more likely be heard clearly In lighter pileups, the DX station may exhibit a pattern -- .e.g. moving up 500 hz after each RTTY QSO. Astute DXers learn this pattern, anticipate the next frequency, and call there. However, this only works when there aren't too many astute DXers. Spectrum scopes have made it much easier to rapidly detect such patterns, turning the anticipated next frequency into a zoo. As a result, many DX stations have abandoned the pattern method; instead, they randomly look for stations in the clear across the range in which they are operating. No DXer should participate in a pileup if doing so would QRM an ongoing QSO. In my experience, politely asking the participants in the ongoing QSO to move almost always yields a polite and positive response. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -----Original Message----- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of obrienaj Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Dx pile ups.. Bonnie said "the same goes for "DX pileups". Basically, a pileup is simply a contest where the number of possible contacts is 1 and the number of possible multipliers is 1. Everyone who enters the pileup contest is trying to out-QRM the other entrants, or in FCC parlance... "to harmfully interfere with", the other contestants in the pileup contest. They are trying to keep the other stations from working the target station, in favor of themselves. Louder, stronger, QRMer." Surely Bonnie is correct in this? Not ALL DXers , but the vast majority are doing what Bonnie describes when responding to a QRZ. If I hear " P5DX QRZ?", then I hear "November Seven Delta..." starting a call and throw in "Kilo Three Uniform Kilo" on top of the 7 station (Danny) , Bonnie is correct that I have QRM'd him. I guess the difference is that this is accepted and actually encouraged. I still remember my utter shock when a new ham reading the ARRL handbook about DXing, and how a DX station would listen on incrementally different QRG and NOT tell you exactly where. The book explained that the "art" of DXing was to determine the DX station's methods and skillfully figure out where he would be listening. In Bonnie's context, this would be encouraging lots of QRM . Skip's earlier point would be that this still differs from "unattendned" transmissions but I think Bonnie's point is that the result is not that much difference. Cue Bonnie with comments about goose and gander... Andy K3UK