On Sunday 06 December 2009 18:22:22 Dave Ackrill wrote:
> Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle wrote:
> 
> > As for D-Star, ICOM is the maker, don't believe Yaesu has anything in their 
> > line-up, same for Kenwood (except the rebrand). I am a Kenwood man and so 
> > far I have resisted going to D-Star until I see what the other makes bring 
> > out. If D-Star was so good WHY haven't the other brands made and sold them?
> 
> I would guess that D-Star is the intellectual property right of Icom, so 
> if other manufacturers want to use it they would have to pay Icom for 
> the right to do so.  I can't see many manufacturers wanting to tie their 
> future development to a competitor by including something that the 
> competitor controlled...
> 
> There is an alternative that implements D-Star which uses a dongle unit 
> into the PC to interface other radios, but it isn't cheap.  I guess that 
> could be due to rights payments as well?
> 
> Personally, and I am a bit of a sucker for strange new modes, I can't 
> see what D-Star would give me that I need or want at present.  Even 
> digital audio over Amateur bands seems to have more down sides than up 
> to me.
> 
> Dave (G0DJA)
> 
> 
> 

Hello Dave and the Group.

D-Star is a protocal that the JARL (Japenese version of the ARRL) has devel-
oped that is open source to the public EXCEPT for one piece of software that
it relies on that is PROPRIETORY code. Hense the reason the D-Star dongle
cost so much to sell. Kenwood, Yaesu, and Alinco can jump on the band wagon
anytime they want if they want to. Its just that I think they see D-Star as 
more of a FAD than a useful mode.

The thing that gets me is that everyone I have talked to locally thinks that
D-Star is going to behave like a plain analogue voice signal. WRONG!!! You
are going to have lose of data depending on conditions and signal stregnth
in ANY mode, but with D-Star it is more pronounced for the cut-off threshold
between full and no signal decode.

There have been a few Satellite QSO's on AO-51 using D-Star but no one has
released an audio file of the quality that was obtained that I have found
yet which is something I would like to heard.

Here in Michigan, I have played a little with 'borrowed' (already programmed)
equipment on D-Star and didn't like it much. Too much choppy audio and lose
of lock on data. Got fifty miles from a repeater that was now D-Star and lost
link to it. That same repeater as an analogue repeater I could get into from
as far away as 125 miles. All based on same antenna and power - 50 watts
and a MFJ 15 dollars dual band mag mount on same car.

I am not impressed with it as a general usage system unless you are going
to be a local user ONLY. As for long distance comms, it would have to rely on
band conditions helping out. I'll stay with the tryed and true methods for
now.

James W8ISS


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