I agree. Spread spectrum is illegal below 420 MHz in the U.S. and the ROS 
documentation describes a spread-spectrum system. It's certainly no wider than 
modes that use Walsh codes or low-rate convolutional codes but these systems 
increase bandwidth by increasing redundancy and are therefore legal. ROS is 
another good reason for regulation by bandwidth instead of the overly 
restrictive system in the current FCC regulations. 

73,

John
KD6OZH

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KH6TY 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 18:19 UTC
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?


    
  All,

  If we accept the fact that a SSB transmitter with sufficient carrier 
suppression simply generates an RF carrier equal to the suppressed carrier 
frequency plus the tone frequency (USB), then frequency hopping is frequency 
hopping (spread spectrum), regardless of how the carriers are generated. That 
is really too bad for US hams as all morning I have been receiving alerts and 
printouts from many stations on 14.080 - many times when the ROS signal can 
hardly be heard above the noise.

  I'm afraid that Andy's concerns are real, and unless the FCC clarifies 
otherwise, ROS is currently illegal in the US in my personal opinion and 
interpretation of the FCC rules.

  However, it looks like a worthwhile mode to test on UHF (432 MHz) where SS 
"is" allowed and we will be doing that during our daily digital experiments 
every morning on 432.090 SSB. The Doppler shift, multipath distortion, and 
"fast flutter", as well as QSB often as deep as 15 dB, often make even S3 phone 
signals unintelligible. We have been also been testing extensively with 
DominoEx 4 on FM (DominoEX does not survive Doppler shift well on SSB) and 
Olivia 16-500 and 4-500 on both FM and  SSB, often with better copy than with  
SSB phone, and especially so when signals are near the noise threshold. The 
path length is 200 miles, so signals are usually near the noise threshold 
during these winter months where there is no propagation enhancement.

  I'll post the results of our tests on 432 MHz here during the next two weeks 
as we compare ROS to Olivia. So far, plain old CW can be copied when even 
Olivia cannot, but the CW "note" is very raspy sounding, much like it is during 
aroura communication. It would help a lot if it were possible to select 
alternate soundcards and many of us on UHF and VHF are using a second soundcard 
for digital operations.


73 - Skip KH6TY



  nietorosdj wrote: 
      

    One comment: It is not the same a Spread Spectrum Transceiver (like 
military radios) that to send digital data into an audio channel on standard 
SSB transceiver. They are different things. So, when we read Spread Spectrum is 
not legal, first we must know what we are reading.

    --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien <k3uka...@...> wrote:
    >
    > 
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzY3MjhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNjY1OTc1MzA-?o=6>Joe,
    > N8FQ...
    > 
    > http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html
    > 
    > Describes Spread Spectrum as not permitted on HF. Is there another part of
    > part 97 I am missing ?
    > 
    > Andy K3UK
    >




  

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