John,

The principle of regulation by bandwidth that was fostered by Winlink through the ARRL was that any mode would be allowed in a particular segment of bandwidths as long as the bandwidth was the same or similar. No restriction on content or operating methods.This would have meant that the messaging stations would have full access to all of the phone bands with no restrictions. For example, Pactor-III which has about 100% duty cycle (modulation), compared to 30% average for uncompressed phone, could easily displace any phone QSO and the phone operator would not even be able to identify the interfering station because he would not be operating Pactor-III. The result would have been dominance by messaging systems with no place left to have phone QSO's without the possiblity of being interfered with by an automatic messaging station. Messaging stations are run with ARQ so they fear competition of their own kind and you can often see two automatic stations battling automatically for a frequency. As a result they want to spread out over the band as much as possible to avoid interference from each other instead of sharing frequencies on a first-come-first-served basis like everyone else.

If you modify regulation by bandwidth to limit certain incompatible modes or operating methods, then it is no longer "regulation by bandwidth", but back to "regulation by mode" (perhaps also with some regulation by operating method thrown in for protection of some interests), but the FCC is happy with the regulation by mode we currently have, and they have seen no good reason to change what works for most communications already. Note that there is phone (wide) and CW and PSK31 (narrow) only to deal with now and digital operators are in the distinct minority, so there is little incentive to "upset the apple cart" to accomodate a minority of new modes. They may, in time, but only after careful consideration of all the arguments and proposals.

As a result of opposition from everyone else except the messaging stations, the ARRL was forced to withdraw the petition and the FCC continues with regulation by mode instead of merely by bandwidth. As it stands, if spread spectrum were allowed without any limitation on bandwidth or requirement for third party copying, since there is no limitation on bandwidth on the HF bands, the band could be filled with spread spectrum stations covering wide bandwidths and once there are many spread spectrum stations, the fact that a single station will not interfere very long becomes a huge multitude of frequency-hopped signals that in the aggregate, that could cover many frequencies at once. What we hope is that the FCC will someday allow spread spectrum as long as it is limited in bandwidth to 3000 Hz and copiable by third parties for frequency mediation and identification when necessary. To do this, it will be necessary for the FCC to consider all arguments pro and con and decide whether or not to allow a limited form of spread spectrum on HF and VHF. The impact of a single spread spectrum station only cannot be the only consideration, but instead the impact of a multitude of spread spectrum stations, all transmitting at the same time on different frequencies. This obviously complicates the decision enormously, so the FCC needs to act carefully in order not to make a mistake.

BTW, I have been monitoring 14.101 for several hours and ROS just froze in Windows 7 with an error message, "Run-time error 5. Invalid procedure call or argument"

73 - Skip KH6TY




John B. Stephensen wrote:


The current restrictions on automatic stations can stay in place with regulation by bandwidth so this shouln't be an impediment. 73, John
KD6OZH

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    There are those who think that regulation by bandwidth would solve
    everything, but there are also those who would love that chance to
    take over the HF bands with automated messaging services so they
    do not have to worry about crowding anymore. You can be thankful
    for regulations that both protect, and also allow, with
    limitations, and that cannot be changed without a sufficient
    period of public comment from all users so that all sides can be
    heard from. The FCC adheres to such a process.


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