Just keep the FCC out of this. They do will not deal with such issues. If
pushed, the out come will not be pretty. This was discussed at Dayton a few
years out. Basically we either self police or risk extinction.


On 7/12/10 5:00 PM, "Rein A" <rein...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

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> Dear Skip,
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> This is the second time you post this message about the FCC engineer
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> Why don't you tell us how we can get in touch with this engineer.
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> I would really like to hear that from that person and I would ask him
> whether the info was for public consumption or "on background"
> as used in the Media, "not authorized"  to talk about it because of
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> Where does this person work,  Washington DC, PA, Boston?
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> Why is this engineer's statement not in the public domain?
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> FCC is a Federal Agency , not some hidden laboratory in a basement somewhere,
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> Always have to get back to this point Why is this not published
> by FCC on there information outlets?
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> They publish all the time as the Federal Communication Commission
> and not to a private person or a club of hobbyists  with all respect
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> 73 Rein W6SZ
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> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> KH6TY <kh...@...> wrote:
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>> > Andy,
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>> > I have been told by a FCC engineer, part of the evaluation group at the
>> > FCC, whom I will not name, that ROS 16 baud and 1 baud has been
>> > evaluated in the lab and "is" spread-spectrum and therefore illegal on
>> > HF, not only because the author first said it was spread spectrum and
>> > then changed his story.
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>> > Anyone with DigiPan or any other PSK31 program with a waterfall can
>> > verify that the frequency spreading is random and not a function of the
>> > data, which is the signature of spread-spectrum.
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>> > Just because someone "feels" it is not spread spectrum does not excuse
>> > them from following the regulations and those who do not risk the chance
>> > of FCC action against them once someone files a complaint.
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>> > There is no reason for the FCC to "reconsider" their decision, since it
>> > is based on analysis as well as the author's declaration. What can be
>> > done is to submit a petition to the FCC to allow limited bandwidth
>> > spread spectrum on HF by showing it is not harmful to other users of the
>> > bands. The instructions for submitting a petition are available on the
>> > FCC website.
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>> > Radio amateurs are responsible for following the regulations, not just
>> > interpreting them as they see fit.
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>> > ROS is legal above 222 Mhz, so freely use it there if you wish. It is
>> > probably really good for EME.
>> > 
>> > 73, Skip KH6TY
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>> > On 7/12/2010 6:55 AM, Andy obrien wrote:
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>>> > > For those USA hams that are using ROS on HF, I assume that by using
>>> > > it...they feel it is not spread spectrum and thus should be legal.  Is
>>> > > there any movement towards petitioning the FCC to reconsider the
>>> > > unofficial comments by them and obtaining statements that it is legal
>>> > > ?  Or has everyone agreed it IS spread spectrum and given up on it
>>> > > becoming legal in the USA ?
>>> > > Andy K3UK
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