On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:12 AM, <mle...@ripnet.com> wrote:

>  Indeed, if one uses relative, rather than absolute frequencies in the Qt
> Frequency sink, everything is wonderful.
>
> But I think there are, as you observe, deeper questions about the desired
> semantics of async messages of this type.
>
> An advantage to the "sets a variable" implementation on the WX GUI side,
> is that said variable can be manipulated and scaled as appropriate,
> depending on who is consuming it.
>
> It's early days for the async-message subsystem within GR, and we are
> learning as we're going.  No surprises....
>

I also just want to point out that the format of the messages is described
in the manual

http://gnuradio.org/doc/doxygen/classgr_1_1qtgui_1_1freq__sink__c.html

See the Detailed Description section.

Tom



> On 2015-03-23 02:12, Martin Braun wrote:
>
> On 22.03.2015 19:26, Marcus D. Leech wrote:
>
> Just looking at the async message interface for Qt GUI Frequency Sink. The
> "freq" output (is that a PMT?) is always, it appears, in terms of "display"
> frequency. Which is cool if you're using the click-to-tune output to modify
> (for example) a hardware source, but if you're using it to tune (for
> example) a freq-xlating FIR filter, there's a disagreement on semantics.
> One could run the Frequency Sink in relative mode in this case. But it
> seems like there should be more flexibility in dealing with the contents of
> async messages, in situations where the message tag ("freq" in this case)
> could have semantics that not everyone who takes such a tag might agree on.
>
> There've been long discussions on this subject, at least one of them at a dev 
> call. In general, the message format is of the (index, value) format. For the 
> case of the xlating FIR, all you need to do is change your x-axis to make the 
> center freq 0, and you're good. Getting tags and PMTs right is still a 
> learning process for all of us, but we didn't want to add loads of extra 
> settings into the QT sink just so we could get the tags into any format we 
> liked.
>
> It should, I think, also be possible to turn such tags into variable
> settings in GRC, but I couldn't find any way to do so.
>
> Hmmmm... maybe some block that would work with with the probes could do that. 
> Would have to be written, though.
>
> M
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