What do you mean by "hard-decision" equalizer, and "drop them down"?

Thanks so much!!

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Martin Braun <martin.br...@ettus.com>
wrote:

> That's because the equalizer used is a hard-decision equalizer. You can
> write your own equalizers and drop them down for better results; that's
> something I've been meaning to do for a while, but haven't found the
> time yet.
>
> Cheers,
> M
>
> On 04/20/2016 09:56 PM, Jingyi Sun wrote:
> > Hope pictures below give more context.   Has anyone seen this happen
> before?
> >
> > To reword the part of our question about constellation plots a little,
> > does anyone know when the constellation block would output just four
> > single points?
> >
> > The problem we’re currently facing is that the constellation plot does
> > not even really show up -/there’s not even a giant blob to indicate
> > noise/. Instead, we get only 4 points, one in each of the four locations
> > you’d expect for a QPSK signal - but only those 4 points./It almost
> > feels like the constellation plot stops triggering after these first
> > four points/, and that’s why we don’t receive anymore data. *We’re using
> > a free trigger on the positive slope, centered at 0, *which I feel
> > should trigger at least something even if it’s just noise.  We have also
> > tried other trigger methods, which output either 4 points, 5 points (1
> > additional point in the center), or just 1 center point.
> >
> >
> > ​
> > ​
> > ​
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Jingyi Sun <sunjing...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:sunjing...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     We are not compensating for any lost packets, although we would be
> >     aware of them thanks to the packet number. Could you tell us if
> >     there’s a block to do this, or would we need a custom block?
> >
> >
> >     Also, could you tell us why the constellation diagram is not
> >     displaying properly?
> >
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     Jenny
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Martin Braun
> >     <martin.br...@ettus.com <mailto:martin.br...@ettus.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Are you comparing the correct packets? E.g., if packets get
> >         lost, do you
> >         take that into account?
> >
> >         M
> >
> >         On 04/16/2016 02:38 PM, Jingyi Sun wrote:
> >         > Hi everyone,
> >         >
> >         > We are working on an experiment for a conference paper
> deadline in two
> >         > weeks, and need to transmit and receive OFDM packets and want
> to study
> >         > the constellation diagram and BER.
> >         >
> >         > I put together a flow graph consisting of an *OFDM transmitter
> >         block*
> >         > and an *unpacked OFDM receiver* based on the online example
> >         rx_ofdm.grc.
> >         > Here's how I'm trying to measure constellation diagram and BER:
> >         >
> >         >   * I inserted a QT constellation sink right before the
> >         constellation
> >         >     decoder on the payload IQ stream, but it does not seem to
> output
> >         >     anything meaningful. The plot just shows single, clean
> points, which
> >         >     I am pretty sure does not correspond to real data. I
> suspect that
> >         >     the plots are not triggering properly, but am not sure.
> >         >
> >         >   * For BER, we tried several different configurations, and
> >         they mostly
> >         >     give BER = 0.5 (i.e. random).  Our leading theory is that
> we're not
> >         >     comparing the data at the correct points in the flow
> graph. Any
> >         >     suggestions as to what the BER inputs should be would be
> helpful.
> >         >
> >         > We've been running some diagnostics that seem to eliminate our
> >         > communication channel as the problem:
> >         >
> >         >   * We are transmitting the data over-the-air at 915 MHz using
> >         >     two omnidirectional antennas, placed roughly 1 meter
> apart. The
> >         >     output spectra at the transmitter output and receiver
> input are
> >         >     attached - all signals are comfortably above the noise
> floor.
> >         >   * From the tag debug output, we see that the OFDM packet
> >         headers are
> >         >     being received. For example, we can see when the packets
> are
> >         >     received, the packet numbers, as well as the channel
> estimation tap
> >         >     values. We take this to mean that we are receiving data
> >         >     successfully, and that our difficulties regarding BER and
> >         >     constellation diagram are something we're executing
> incorrectly in
> >         >     the software.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > The relevant annotated GRC block diagrams are attached.
> >         >
> >         > Thanks so much,
> >         > Jenny
> >         >
> >         >
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