Hi Daniel,

Thank you so much for all the info, very useful.
I tried the Keep M in N block, straightforward and works great! Now I also
prefer using this block.

Thanks again
Karen

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 2:39 PM Daniel Estévez <dan...@destevez.net> wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> Good you got this working.
>
> I now see that something I said is wrong. I said: to get FFT bin 128, we
> should use Skip Head 127. This is not correct. We need to skip FFT bins
> 0 through 127 (both included), which is a total of 128 samples, so we
> should use Skip Head 128.
>
> There is another thing I was misunderstanding. The Keep 1 in N block
> keeps the last element out of every N, rather than the first element of
> every N, which is what I expected. This explains why you need to use
> Skip Head 129 rather than Skip Head 129 as the above paragraph would
> seem to indicate.
>
> Since I find this a bit confusing, I prefer to use the Keep M in N
> block, which keeps the first M elements out of every N, starting with an
> initial offset. I find it more straightforward to think in terms of
> keeping the first element than in terms of keeping the last element.
> Here, using M = 1, N = 1024, and an initial offset of 128 will get you
> the FFT bin you want.
>
> Best,
> Daniel.
>
> On 28/12/2022 16:31, Karen young wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > Thanks a lot. This is so helpful. I tried both methods you suggested.
> > The phase is correct now.
> >
> > For "Shift: No", compared to the Skip Head value 127,  value 129 has the
> > max magnitude. I guess it is a zero-based system. Please correct me if
> > wrong.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 12:42 PM Daniel Estévez <dan...@destevez.net
> > <mailto:dan...@destevez.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 27/12/2022 17:49, Karen young wrote:
> >      > Hi,
> >      > Attached is the model I built for phase measurement.
> >      > Since the samp_rate (5M) is 8 times of signal source freq
> >     (625k),  the
> >      > phase should be expected as shown in the table, while the
> >     measured phase
> >      > is only correct when there is half cycle or full cycle delay.
> >      > What can I do to make it correct?
> >      > Delay step    Expected phase delay    Measured phase delay
> >      > 0     0       0
> >      > 1     -0.79   -1.5
> >      > 2     -1.57   -4.7
> >      > 3     -2.36   -1.5
> >      > 4     -3.14   -3.14
> >      > 5     -3.93   -1.57
> >      > 6     -4.71   -1.57
> >      > 7     -5.5    -1.57
> >      > 8     0       0
> >
> >     Hi Karen,
> >
> >     I think that the problem might be with your Skip Head block. I see
> that,
> >     in combination with the Keep 1 in N block, you're using it to select
> the
> >     correct FFT bin in the vectors output by the FFT blocks. However, it
> >     seems to me that you're not selecting the correct bin.
> >
> >     Since you're using "Shift: Yes" in your FFTs, the DC bin would be at
> >     index 512. The bin corresponding to the positive frequency of the
> cosine
> >     (you're using a real cosine, so it has a positive and a negative
> >     frequency component, if that makes sense), would be at index 512 +
> >     1024/8 = 640. Therefore, I think it's necessary to use 639 as the
> number
> >     of items to skip.
> >
> >     If you used "Shift: No" in the FFTs, the the positive frequency of
> the
> >     cosine would be at index 1024/8 = 128, so the number of items to skip
> >     should be 127 rather than 129.
> >
> >     To make sure that you're selecting the correct FFT bin, I suggest you
> >     look at its magnitude and compare it with a plot of the magnitudes of
> >     all the FFT bins. This will show if you're in fact selecting the
> correct
> >     bin where the maximum of the FFT is, or something else.
> >
> >     Best,
> >     Daniel.
> >
> >
>
>

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