Hey,
On Tuesday, August 29, 2006, at 09:29 AM, Chris Vetter wrote:
[...]
If we just implement the OpenStep specification (and ignore cocoa,
which added nice thing and ruined others) we have enough power to
write our web browser (yes, seriously, it is time and resources which
lack, not frameworks), an office suite, an imaging application, a 3d
application.... it was done on OpenStep and we even have stuff which
was not in OS.
[...]
I beg to differ. Which framework(s) are you referring to regarding a
web browser?
Yes, there basically are 3 to pick from (libwww, Mozilla's engine and
WebKit) but the first two would need wrapping and the latter is a PITA
to port (I tried several times and got stuck due to references to Apple
specific frameworks) plus the latter two are (currently) using GTK/GDK,
which -- for me -- is a 'no go.'
Actually what I meant is that gnustep-core is complete enough that you
could write a webbrowser from scratch. Despite what people think, it can
be done (iCab is a browser for macintosh written by two brothers, very
heavy-weight, it run on 68k for a long time, it supports javascript,
jscript and lately CSS is in the works too and mind, it is done in
classic mac and nowadays carbon, thus far more primitive stuff). There
is also a browser on windows wirten from scratch wich is reasonably nice.
If you want to stir up the browser argument again, I think web-core is a
bit of a dead-end. We could hack on libwww (many browser did that), or
hack on the links graphics core, which even supports some limited
javascript and is in pure C. Or try to wrap gecko like it was done with
camino. I think that if we make our own wrappers it could be a nice
result and possibly even without that monster called obj-c++.
Cheers,
Riccardo
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