On Nov 11, 2007 6:15 PM, Dr Tomaž Slivnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As to the look, is there a reason why Camaelon still isn't part of > > the standard GNUstep distribution? Yes, the default look is clean, > > but it's clean and very 80s. Nesedah is clean and modern, and > > Narcissus is even cleaner. Using GNUstep apps without Camaelon > > feels like stepping through a time warp. > > For what it's worth, I like the "very 80s" look. What's wrong with > the 80s look?
please... we went through that discussion hundreds of times. Just accept for a fact that a vast majority of people dislike the NeXT *look*, whatever the reason. While I like the OPENSTEP look, there is no saying it does not look dated. Nice, but dated. <snip a list of comments about OSX and the superiority of NeXT, all things which really doesn't apply to gnustep per se> > Themability also comes with some pitfalls: > > - it potentially makes the GUI design more complex, which means > buggier and more time-consuming/expensive to develop; That's what Gorm is for. Seriously. Tell me why GUI design would be more complex. Some more work can be caused by color/tonality differences, but nothing we can't work out. As everything else, it's a tradeoff and to me the advantages a magnitude more than the few disadvantages. > - there is a risk that, if not properly used, developers will develop > apps which only work / only work well with a particular theme - and > possibly different apps working well with different themes. We are talking about themes -- nothing "active". The behaviour will not change. > I'd be more conservative in making claims we can so easily improve on > the NeXT original design. I've looked at some of the themes offered > in Camaeleon. They look interesting/OK. I personally prefer the NeXT > design. > > I think a theming engine is useful; but I'm not convinced it's such a > great priority and I can see good reasons not to have it a part of > the standard distribution (see pitfalls above). Let's be blunt: I don't care if GNUstep choose to have a new UI theme by default, although I really, really think it should. And it's not like you wouldn't be able to switch back to the NeXT theme if you want. What's important is to have a theme engine. I don't even know why I _again_ try to discuss that, because it's painfully obvious to me, and because I know very well that nobody will really work on it anyway, certainly not people that complains. So I'll just shut up for a few months more until I'll again have some free time to work on gnustep. -- Nicolas Roard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8 _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep