Hi, On 2017-07-29 19:42:02 +0200 Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net> wrote:
> \o/ > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://www.osnews.com/story/29939/GNUSTEP_live_CD_2_5_released > >> Also, there's a new release of GNUstep Live! :-) > "cool": the GNUstep LiveCD gets us in the news again! Sadly, the LiveCD has never been the best way to present us and it apparently is even less so now. I haven't played with it myself this time, so I don't know exactly which applications are packaged in, which version they are and how things are configured. Apps used to derive from the Debian packages, with all limitations of availability and versions, since GNUstep on Debian is surely "not the best way" do showcase us. Sure, GNUstep lacks many things and "continues" to lack them and I don't want to start again a discussion on what should and should not be done, because they are the most useless and irritating threads that happen on this mailig list, while our few energies should be catered in doing things. However, reading that "nothing changed" in 8 years is quite irritating, by people who click for 10 minutes on a LiveCD. There you can only check a couple of windows and menus, not much more. I just had a look at the screenshots on the LiveCD sites and they are all "old" and made a quick mental comparison. The progress has been a lot on most applications displayed there, deep progress. Back then most applications there (e.g. GNUMail and GWorkspace itself) were bitrotting, quite unportable and could even crash with a few mouseclick. In so many years, we gathered a lot of new core functionality (we caught up with API, Objective-C 2 and the Apps had to evolve with them and most of them did well! Theming capabilities refined in the last years! Also, perhaps we don't have a Browser, little progress on the Preferences side... but our some of our apps did improve way beyond simple maintenance! Just the amount of bugs fixed in GNUMail in the past 2 years is notable And we have new nice apps too. Does the LiveCD have PikoPixel for example? A very nice and polished application. And Laterna Magica? Battery Monitor? Graphos? just to mention apps that practially did not exist or were unusable 8 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20070220161636/http://gap.nongnu.org:80/ And now - back to work GNUstep! Riccardo _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep