Hi!
This looks like it's running on TDE. If so, it's probably running on top
of X11 -- why did you think it was running on framebuffer? It would be
cool though if we had a framebuffer backend, but I'm not sure how useful
it'd be. I don't think we wanted to compete with Qt in the
embedded/automotive space, but maybe there is someone interested in that.
Thanks,
Ethan Charoenpitaks
On 11/6/24 20:41, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote:
Hello all!
I was reading on history behind NextSTEP and company, and finally
tried to compile mgSTEP for x11.
It works, I think?
https://pasteboard.co/sMzLSELDbIo7.png
Now, as far as I understand gnustep backends does not have
(currently) framebuffer backend (and much of window manipulation/event
handling thus delegated to windowmaker/X11)
mgSTEP 2.07 also uses its own rasterizer, so probably this part of it
will clash with normal GNUstep installation?
I wonder how many exiting applications/toolkits targeting Cocoa can be
retargeted to GNUStep, in turn running on top of framebuffer/kms ?
Writing GPU drivers for modern GPUs is not fun for small team of
course, but may be same EGL/OpenGLES (they two different things, as
far as I understand EGL is like for windowless environments, unlike
GLX/WGL where openGL ties into specific windowing system,) as used by
Xserver's GLAMOR accelerating architecture and Wayland compositors
can be reused?
As far understand relative little popularity of objective-c based not
only on initial heavy pricing ($1999 for developer license on x86 in
1993?) but also by need of thinking about protocols between objects
and what is exposed and what kept private ?
But because we live in The Future some protocols were already tried
and implemented, so may be a bit less brainshtorming needed today
compare to early 90x ?
I also wonder about high-performance video - original NeXT up to 2.2
had some video support due to NEXTDumension video I/O, but it was
stripped later on ...
I can't see any reference to YUV colorspaces in NeXTSTEP 2.x/3.x
documentation, but may be something was added to GNUStep quietly?
I think I 'get' idea behind objects, you can do cool thinks like
getting text output intercepted for text-to-speech engine, send
commands to another machine, capture input events or even synthetic
messages for later use (macros, UI automation) ...
so, it makes sense but dev pool (for libre applications) is small, so
... bootstraping problem!
I am not really a developer, just Slackware user since ~2005. So I
can fix few obvious (googlable) little things but I yet to write
helloworld in any language (copypasta does not count)
I am not sure if I'll try anything with *STEP environments, but I
figured out sending email to list will not hurt?
