You left out the fourth step!

4. The client receives their credit card statement, claims not to have
authorized the charge, and the credit card company charges it back to you.
You provide documentation to the credit card company, but the credit card
company doesn't know what a domain name is, and since you have so signature
they rule against you.

Luckily it doesn't usually happen.  But when it does, the RSP loses the
money, and it's nice to at least be able to deprive the forgetful customer
of the domain name.  After all, if he doesn't remember buying it, he surely
shouldn't miss it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Merlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WebWiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: deleting a ca domain


> I have seen a couple of similar attempts here. There is even one person
trying to transfer someone elses domain to themselves.
> However - I stop them in their tracks, because I set the system up in a
three step process. I know it adds to the labour involved -
> but there is always a price.
>
> 1. They register, or reserve, or transfer or whatever. It's not automatic,
I have to go to the interface an manualy "approve" every
> transaction after payment is approved
> 2. The client in step two makes a payment. Credit Card is a direct link to
the bank so the bank catches any crooks. If payment is
> approved, the money is in my bank and I'm paid, and I then go to opensrs
and approve the transaciton.
> 3. The client sends me a "Confirmation" email from a form on the site if
they wish. Some do some dont
>
> So far I haven't had to contact Admin at OpenSRS about any problems in
this area.....
>
>
> bob
>
> ---
> Robert Chalmers
> http://www.quantum-radio.net.au         Quantum Radio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.inexpensivewebsites.com   Domain Name Registrations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WebWiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 4:41 AM
> Subject: Re: deleting a ca domain
>
>
> > I have to agree from personal experience.  We got hit by someone using a
> > stolen credit card to register 4 domain names (each for 5 years), and
> > OpenSRS very quickly responded and placed the names on administrative
hold.
> >
> > I wasn't able to recover the financial loss (and didn't expect to), but
> > OpenSRS made sure that the jerk doesn't get to use the names.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric Longman
> > Atl-Connect Internet Services
> >
> > +-------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Atl-Connect Internet Services   http://www.atlcon.net |
> > | 3600 Dallas Hwy Ste 230-288              770 590-0888 |
> > | Marietta, GA 30064-1685            [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> > +-------------------------------------------------------+
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Rivers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: deleting a ca domain
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry but that is completely untrue.
> >
> > Although compliance is completely overworked, they will eventually
respond.
> > If
> > you send a support or compliance issue to "upper management" you are
causing
> > an
> > even greater delay as they will simply forward it to the correct
address.
> >
> > Resellers are responsible for payment. However, if a domain is
fraudulently
> > registered, compliance will place it on hold. You are still out the
money
> > but
> > the scammer will not get the domain.
> >
> > I hope this clears things up.
> >
> > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > It has been my experience that OpenSRS' policy is to simply ignore
these
> > > issues. E-mail sent to support@ will be replied that charge backs are
a
> > > compliance issue. If you send your request to compliance@ or to upper
> > > management, it will just be ignored.
> > >
> > > In short, if you encounter fraudulent domain registrations, not only
must
> > > you incur the financial loss, but the perpetrator also gets to keep
the
> > > domain since OpenSRS will not delete or hold these domains.
Unfortunately,
> > > this policy just proliferates fraudulent domain registrations and
makes
> > any
> > > RSP's that perform immediate registration an easy target.
> > >
> > > Rich Shockney
> > > RS Marketing
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Rivers
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:09 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: deleting a ca domain
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh sure, pass the buck :)
> > >
> > > I did a quick check of CIRA's website. They don't mention the word
> > "delete"
> > > anywhere in their FAQ or Dispute policy.
> > >
> > > Not a good start...
> > >
> > > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000, Charles Daminato wrote:
> > > > Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance with this procedure :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Charles Daminato
> > > > Tucows Product Manager (ccTLDs)
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from
time to
> > > > time that nothing worth knowing can be taught.
> > > >
> > > >  - Oscar Wilde
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prog
> > > > > Sent: December 7, 2000 4:03 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: deleting a ca domain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > How to delete a dot ca domain ? In case of charge back for
example.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:54 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: GST on domain transfers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You can always approach your local tax office for a ruling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, I would take the line that as a reseller, the goods
are
> > > > > > provided from OpenSRS and any GST would only apply to the
service
> > > > > > provided by the reseller, ie above the purchase price for the
> > > > > domain.
> > > > > > Then you also have the added complications if your servers and
> > > > > > infrastructure is not in the Country that has GST.  Can be
> > > > > > complicated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've put off dealing with it for the time being but is an issue
that
> > > > > I
> > > > > > will have to face soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dassa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > |>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > |>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > |>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott
Goodman
> > > > > > |>Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:59 AM
> > > > > > |>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > |>Subject: Re: GST on domain transfers
> > > > > > |>
> > > > > > |>
> > > > > > |>
> > > > > > |>Thanks for the info.
> > > > > > |>
> > > > > > |>It's way above my head. I just wanna write code :)
> > > > > > |>
> > > > > > |>I'll pass this on to oru accounting type people and let them
> > > > > > |>unravel it.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > --
> > > Robert Rivers
> > > OpenSRS Technical Operations
> > > (416) 535-0123
> > --
> > Robert Rivers
> > OpenSRS Technical Operations
> > (416) 535-0123
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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