Eric - that is indeed correct. The ICANN/NSI rules definitely do not kick
in until the registrant has explicitly acknowledged their wishes to
transfer the domain name.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, WebWiz wrote:

> As I understand it, until the Administrative Contact responds and explicitly
> approves the transfer it is not even submitted to the losing Registrar.
> Once approved by the Admin Contact, *THEN* the rules kick in that allow it
> to transfer even in the absence of a response from the losing Registrar.
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Longman
> Atl-Connect Internet Services
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ecs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jeremy Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:30 AM
> Subject: RE: *sigh* my domains been screwed for about a week!
> 
> 
> I was under the impression that it was an automatic approval
> if the losing Registrar does not respond within 5 days and
> decline the transfer.
> 
> That is what I have been telling my clients, based on the
> information contained in transfers10a.pdf.
> 
> I understand that you must wait the full nine days before
> notification due to possible lack of notification by the
> losing Registrar, but your statement here makes it seem as
> if a non-response by the losing Registrar is a disapproval,
> resulting in the cancellation of the request.
> 
> Could you please clarify this?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert
> Rivers
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:39 AM
> To: Jeremy Hansen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: *sigh* my domains been screwed for about a
> week!
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The transfer is waiting on Registry (NSI) approval. It's on
> it's 6th day.
> Unfortunately, that's a bad sign. It will probably fail in 3
> days.
> 
> Past that, OpenSRS can't be of any help. Sorry.
> 
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Jeremy
> Hansen wrote: > I'm so sick of telling the story over and
> over and over again
> to NSI that > I don't feel like explaining it again even to
> the good guys at
> opensrs. >
> > The point is, because NSI been bending me over for the
> past week and my
> > domain which I do most of my business has been down and
> all attempts to
> > have this rectified has completely failed.  It has been a
> daily routine
> > for the past week to call NSI in the morning, sit on hold
> for 30 - 40
> > minutes and take out my frustration on the poor clueless
> support guy
> > that's just there because it's better then working at
> MacDonald's.
> >
> > So, it's not even worth going into what the problem is,
> actually, I'm
> > still not sure, I thought requested a name server change,
> but actually I
> > guess I submitting a form asking for the cure to cancer.
> I guess I should
> > be happy, 7 days is a pretty short time period to ask for
> the cure to
> > cancer.
> >
> > I submitted a transfer to opensrs, request date Aug 10th
> 2000,
> > Confirmation date Aug 11th, 2000.  My question is, during
> the "Pending
> > Registry Approval", is there any reason the domain
> contacts have to be
> > notified via email at this point?  Cause if so, then I'm
> really screwed
> > because as you already know, my domain is in never never
> land and has been
> > for the past week.  I was hoping the transfer would have
> gone through by
> > now so I'm hoping it's still pending from NSI slackerness
> and there's not
> > some type of email trying to be sent to my address, cause
> it ain't gonna
> > get there until NSI removes their... sorry, getting
> emotional again.
> >
> > If anyone at opensrs wants to have a look, the domain in
> question is
> > xxedgexx.com.  Do a whois at whois.networksolutions.com,
> there you'll see
> > the correct information, now do a dig on one of the .com
> root servers,
> > there you'll see the WRONG information.  The wrong
> information in the root
> > servers has been like that for a week and it points to IP
> addresses I know
> > nothing about.  When I point this out to NSI, they say "oh
> yeah, there's
> > something wrong there" and they promise to have tochanged
> in the next
> > update.  They are the bastards of many lies.
> >
> > I just hope someone somewhere can offer some information.
> I hate having
> > that utterly helpless feeling.  NSI just leaves me in the
> dark.  Heh, I
> > like the line from a post I saw in the archive, Talking to
> NSI is like
> > pissing your pants, it leaves you with a warn feeling, but
> not much else.
> > Dude, whoever wrote that, can I have permission to put
> that on a shirt?
> > I'm serious.  If not, then you should make it and sell me
> one for $29.95
> > premium service.  I'm getting sick to my stomach again.
> >
> > Goodnight.
> >
> > Oh yeah, my sig, please ignore it, xxedgexx.com doesn't
> work.  Thanks NSI.
> >
> > Also, I would like to hear from people interested in
> promoting opensrs and
> > persuading large quantities of people to transfer their
> domain away from
> > NSI and basically bad mouthing NSI in general without
> getting sued.
> >
> > -jeremy
> >
> > http://www.xxedgexx.com * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----------------------------------------------
> --
> Robert Rivers
> OpenSRS Technical Operations
> (416) 535-0123
> 
> 
> 


Thanks,

-rwr









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