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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek J. Balling
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:20 PM
To: Marc Storck
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: deleting a ca domain
>*clap clap clap*
>If _I_ (the RSP) pay the registrar (Tucows), then _I_ get to say what
>happens with the domain for the period in which it is paid for. I may elect
>(if someone pays ME) to point it at their servers or even to list them as
>the contact for it, but since I paid for the domain, don't I own it?
Not according to Tucows. According to Tucows, your client owns the domain,
whether your client pays you or not. Or if after paying you, they do a
charge back and get their money back, they still own the domain. Tucow may
suspend the use of the domain by your client, but the client still owns the
domain name. (Or Tucow effectively owns the domain at that point, since they
take control of the domain and prevent it from being used. Which is why I
think it would be an interesting court case, seeing them explain how they
have the authority to revoke the use of the domain for fraudulent payment to
the RSP when Tucow received their payment but not the authority to return
the domain to the person that paid them for it, who actually received the
fraudulent payment. It still appears that Tucows is trying to argue both
sides of the fence here.)
Tucow gets paid, your client may or may not get to keep the domain, but all
you get is the shaft.
>Put simply:
>Is the registrar's responsibility to the person who paid them for the
>domain or not? If not, why would the registrar have any responsibility to
>anyone else?
Apparently, Tucow feels that it's responsibility is to the person who's name
is on the domain when it is registered, not to their resellers who paid them
for the domain.
At 8:37 PM +0100 12/8/00, Marc Storck wrote:
>Ok perhaps I go out here, get my own script which talks to the opensrs
>script, which talks to rr-n1-to which talks to the InterNic registry..... i
>run my own Whois.... and register domains in my name, and customers will
>only have access via my own script, because username/passwords are
different
>from the ones used at OpenSRS.... then we are our own customers, which then
>resell again.... isn't this just a little bit **** (fill with whatever you
>want)
>
>I you mention ICANN then OpenSRS is the registrar and the RSPs are the
>Registrars customer, as long as the customer (in this case the RSP) pays
the
>Registrar (which he does in this case) the domains is at free use of the
>customer of the Registrar in this case THE R S P! Is that so difficult????
