they are against it :-)
the davids don't want the verisign-netsol-goliath to be fed 
with new royalties and further power against the consumers/domain holders.

kind regards     philippe

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>http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg01907.html
>
>Thanks,
>
>-rwr

>Mr. Chuck Gomes,
>
>Attached is the constituency response to the VeriSign WLS proposal. We
>appreciate your team developing this proposal and welcome your comments in
>regards to this constituency consensus statement.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>-rick
>
>Rick Wesson, on behalf of the DNSO Registrars Constituency
>
>RC-WLS-Response.pdf
>

To Chuck Gomes,

The Registrar Constituency (RC) is hereby providing its formal position to the 
VeriSign Global Registry Services (VGRS) regarding its proposal to manage a Wait 
Listing Service (WLS), the subscription service for deleted domain names. VRSN sent 
its proposal to the Registrar Constituency on December 30, 2001, and allowed 
registrars to comment until January 18, 2002.

The RC has considered the WLS, holding discussions and voting by email and through a 
conference call. The overwhelming position of the RC - in fact the unanimous vote of 
all those taking a position - is to oppose the WLS. Considering VRSN's obligation 
under its agreements with ICANN to vet any proposed price increases or service 
modifications for registry services with ICANN, and ICANN's bottom-up approach, it is 
the RC's understanding that the RC position will be considered within the Domain Name 
Supporting Organization (DNSO) before the DNSO would make a recommendation to the 
ICANN Board, and that the RC position would be a significant factor in ICANN's 
consideration of the WLS proposal.

Prior to reviewing the RC's concerns, it would be instructive to recall the history of 
this issue. In Spring 2001, VGRS temporarily shut off registrar connections, 
preventing new and/or small registrars from registering .com, .net and .org domain 
names. Ostensibly to address this technical load problem VGRS had temporarily closed 
the process of deleting expired names. Rather than effectively solving the technical 
load problem, VGRS implemented an interim solution, relegating batch requests for 
deleting names to one of three pools to prevent this high-volume traffic from 
overloading its systems. But according to VGRS, this solution has not solved the 
connection problems. In fact, VGRS is once again announcing that it is limiting 
connections.

The RC has a number of key concerns with WLS: 

a) price, b) transparency, c) benefit to the Internet, and d) lack of a solution:

a) The proposed $40.00 price point for WLS (which is in addition to the $6.00 registry 
fee) is exorbitant. VGRS has not justified this price with cost requirements. Not only 
does WLS create a much higher price point for the end consumer, it effectively 
undermines competitive registrars' financial wherewithal. It is highly unlikely that 
registrars would be able to increase their margins in proportion to the increased 
margin charged by VGRS. In fact, market data (such as the Snapames price point of $49) 
demonstrates that competitive registrars would have to dramatically lower, or 
eliminate, their current margins in order to compete for WLS names. This would 
undermine competitive registrars' revenues and jeopardize their ability to remain 
profitable.

� The one registrar that may be able to take effectively advantage of this price is 
the VeriSign registrar, which continues to enjoy the largest market share. It would be 
able to use the new higher margin of $46.00 to price below wholesale, as it has in the 
past with the $6.00 fee. The result is to unfairly undermine competitor registrars.

b) There would be a lack of transparency if VGRS runs the primary registry, the 
largest registrar, and the subscription service. As long as the same company is 
operating this vertically powerful chain of companies, it may be possible for it to 
shift domain names from the $6.00 registry to the $46.00 WLS. In fact, only the 
registry would know all of the WLS subscriptions and the timing for deleting names. 
Such information could be abused by its registrar. Considering that there is a history 
- some of it still unresolved - of VeriSign not deleting expired names, the RC is 
doubly concerned that VGRS' operating the WLS provides new opportunities for domain 
name hoarding.

c) The WLS provides an incentive and reward for speculators, while squeezing 
registrants seeking to build a web presence and registrars (as explained above). The 
WLS provides a "sure thing" to Internet insiders who are savvy enough to get to the 
head of the line. This primarily means speculators. They will be willing to pay the 
added $40 fee for a guarantee of getting the expired name if 1) they are sure the name 
will be deleted and 2) they believe that they can resell the domain name at a higher 
price. Insiders will be virtually the only ones able to ensure that a certain name 
will be deleted. The end user will still have to pay the market price, which will be 
determined on the secondary market. Moreover, the fact that a WLS subscription has 
been placed on any given name would prompt a speculator holding such domain name to 
renew it, rather than release it.

d) In addition to creating new problems, WLS will not solve the problem of batch pool 
slamming. In fact, there is the potential to create the same technical loading 
problems on the WLS as currently exist on the main registry. For example, there will 
be competition amongst speculators to be the first to get the WLS on the best names 
about to be deleted. There could also be a landrush effect to place WLS on well known 
popular names, at the moment when the new WLS service goes live. Registrars will still 
compete for the expiring names that do not have WLS subscriptions. Since it costs the 
same "to slam" a $40 name as to slam a name greater than $40, there is no incentive 
not to. Finally, since WLS subscriptions are not tied to a name, this will create many 
WLS-switches immediately after the zone file is released daily.

While the RC opposes the WLS in its current form, it recognizes the need for a 
permanent solution to the apparent problem of deleted names not being released or 
being released in a manner that undermines other registry functions. Therefore, the RC 
welcomes other ideas for addressing these issues, and has discussed other 
alternatives. The RC will address these proposals in a separate position paper. The RC 
is open to VGRS' comments on these other proposals, as well as any modified VGRS 
proposal that modifies the WLS per the comments herein.

The RC is clearly very interested in this issue and welcomes questions or further 
dialogue.

Regards,

Rick Wesson
Registrar Constituency
Chief Technical Officer

cc: Louis Touton
Dan Halloran

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