After thinking about this a little more, is it not the case that your
(.biz) problem is your ability to enforce the requirement that registrars
allow easy access to the auth codes? This should be quite solvable...
simply figure out what your strongest lever is to enforce this (access to
the registry perhaps), devise a warning system to give adequate space for
exceptional cases and introduction, and launch!

sA

Scott Allan
Director, OpenSRS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:51:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tindal, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: .biz Transfer Policy

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Tindal, Richard wrote:

>
>
> I'm reluctant to jump in here as I've never seen an outsider join the
> OpenSRS List without having his ass handed back to him.

Richard -

As a supplier, your comments are valued and we encourage your
participation.... as an Australian however, you may always consider
yourself an outsider... ;)

As far as EPP and it's auth info security implementation, I agree that it
is a noble concept that is poorly implemented generally. I can't help but
think that you are trying to solve a problem that you don't have; the
market share (in general and by registrar) for registrations within new
gTLDs is far different from CNO. Not that there aren't lots of registrants
who want to effect transfers within the .biz space, but that there is not
quite the same imbalance of legacy registrations through one registrar.
Granted, as you state clearly, you are only as strong as the weakest link.

I do not appreciate your privacy argument wrt delegation of trust to the
gaining registrar, it is semantic at best, and this is not a crowd that
cares to appreciate subtle differences in if they stand in the way of
effecting registrants wishes.

Furthermore, I see real problems with EPP handling bulk transfers -
although the protocol allows for "bundling" of names into buckets for
simple management, I do not think that it is often used by large
registrars. The reason for this is simple; no registrar operates with only
one registry, and there are nuances between all the systems that make it
difficult to develop to, not to mention the fact that registrars (and
resellers even) have there own systems for "simplifying"  management for
registrants, complicating things further. Until there is a registry wide
standard (which will be never), this will cause more problems than it
solves IMHO. Plus, it will leave a large loophole for registrars to use to
make it onerous for mass transfers.

If you can continue to keep us in the loop as to what your plans are on
this issue, and solicit our feedback, I imagine we should be able to sort
this out. Can you give us any specifics as to what you see as the next
steps from your perspective?

Regards,

sA


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