Ok, I hadn't thought about parsing for transfer confirm, etc.
I retract my last comment.
Sure wish there were something we could do to at least make it work for
them...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: whois changes


> At 5/29/02 11:27 PM, Paul Chvostek wrote:
>
> >I don't need OpenSRS to
> >halfheartedly break a protocol I'm using in a fruitless attempt to
> >inconvenience spammers.
>
> Yes.
>
> Intentionally messing with the format is pointless. Spammers will
> trivially bypass it with a few minutes' work, and it will merely be an
> inconvenience to those poor souls who do use it for legitimate purposes,
> such as other registrars who parse it for transfer confirmation addresses.
>
> If OpenSRS wants to do something clever to prevent WHOIS spam, here's a
> suggestion that works but doesn't interfere with parsers: offer the
> option for WHOIS to generate temporary forwarding addresses on the fly.
>
> For example, an end-user's real address may be "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". But
> when the WHOIS for example.com is queried, OpenSRS could give out the
> address as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (making up a random number).
> Then OpenSRS would forward mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] for, say, two weeks. Mail sent to the random address
> after two weeks would be bounced with an explanatory error.
>
> This would mean that spammers couldn't compile and sell lists of names
> from the WHOIS, because they would be out of date 14 days later. (The
> problem is not that each spammer is compiling his own list from the
> WHOIS, but that one idiot does so and sells it to thousands of other
> spammers over the next few years.)
>
> This scheme would meet the requirement that the WHOIS contain a valid
> contact address for the domain, and would work much better than various
> challenge-response or whitelist systems I've seen in use (it requires no
> configuration or maintenance at all), and it doesn't interfere with
> automated systems like transfer confirmations.
>
> If I recall, some other registrar does something similar to this,
> although I can't remember which one it is.
>
> This is actually on my list of things to implement locally by updating
> the WHOIS forwarding address for each domain every so often, but it would
> be better done at the registrar level.
>
> --
> Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies
>
> "The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> appreciates how difficult it was."
>


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