----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Robert L Mathews'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Network Solutions Private Registration


> On 1/9/2004 5:55 PM Roger B.A. Klorese noted that:
>
> >>The registrars that I'm aware of that offer a privacy option
> >>like this
> >>simply roll over on the registrant. Sort of defeats the purpose of a
> >>blind registration, but it prevents nasty legal fees from piling up.

The biggest problem is lack of uniformity:

CNO, Biz Info do not permit obfusaction of whois records.

.uk allows private individuals to opt out of the whois but the organisation
field still gets listed.
.nu has never had registrant info in the whois (not during the last 3 years
anyway).
.uk.com (and all centralnic domains) allow domains to be listed as
registrant c/o registrar

Therefore there is some confusion.
In the UK market with people being used to being allowed to opt out of the
whois we geta lot of confusion
when they register .com's

I have been thinking about offering a privacy option and there are two ways
of doing it that I can see:

1. Do it as registrant c/o our business.   This would mean that the
registrant was still listed in the organisation field and would still be the
legal owner, we would merely be acting as a mailing address, phone number
and email drop box.

2. Do it the Godaddy way.  This would mean that we assumed all legal
obligations relating to the domain name.
As I see it this is like using your customers use your IP addresses. We have
had more than one nasty violent  incident  when people have turned up
thinking that Jo Bloggs company was at "Hostroute Towers" because they have
done a sam spade lookup on Jo Bloggs IP address.

So there is an educational aspect to this.

If we keep things as they are we need to educate customers as to why their
details need to be available and point out that with rights come
responsibilities.

If we move to keeping the info private then we need to educate people that
doing a whois lookup is not accurate enough to send two guys round with
baseball bats to attack the registrant.

Either way, its a no win situation while some registries allow opt out and
some don't.

Regards

Gordon Hudson
Hostroute.com Ltd
www.hostroute.net




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