Syncing is a form of backup IMHO. But I don't like that it is so easy to access. That makes it to easy for ME to fubar my own data. (Dropbox keeping an old version or so for a while has saved me in the past, but it is secondary to its normal function.)
I do use syncing. I use a separate backup, and even backup my syncing directory (i.e. dropbox is in my backup path, but the backup doesn't go to dropbox). My normal preaching to local user groups is 3-2-1 backups. If you need the story, let me know offline. I backup using crashplan to a local drive, AND to the 'cloud', AND to a second local machine to give me the 3-2-1 mix (some would call it 4-2-1 but I digress) On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Matt Shields <[email protected]> wrote: > Who says sync/sharing is not a backup? Is the goal a backup not to have > two or more copies of your data in different locations? If the datacenter > happens to fail, your other copy would be the local one, correct? > Swapping backup drives/tapes isn't without it's own problems. What happens > if the bank building burns down? Or the drive/tape becomes corrupt? > Computer dies before your bi-monthly/quarterly drive swap? > > For me, using a live sync solution provides a better backup solution than > dealing with SneakerNet. My backups are up to the minute and automatic and > redundant (computer -> ownCloud -> S3 in other region). I personally have > no time for dealing with manually backing up our personal computers and > swapping a drive at my banks vault. My solution works for me because it > solves my problem of having offsite backups (and recovery) and keeps it > simple. The trick is to find what works for you because if it's burdensome > and complicated you're not going to do it or you're going to forget about > it. With all these idea/solutions we're playing the odds. What are the > odds that my cloud instance, S3 and my local computer all die at the same > time? What are the chances that my computer dies the day before I get a > backup to disk and take it to the bank? Don't write off sync > technologies/services as not acceptable. Evaluate what your needs are and > what is acceptable for data loss is and make a choice based on that. For > some the cost of hosting their own sync server will not be worth it and a > backup drive taken to the bank is "good enough". > > > Matt > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Rich Pieri <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On 9/24/2015 6:36 AM, Matt Shields wrote: > > > >> Check out ownCloud. It let's you run your own cloud based backup > >> service. > >> > > > > ownCloud is sync/sharing, not backup. > > > > On 9/24/2015 7:02 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: > > > Oh god, no. If you're thinking about ownCloud, try Synctuary instead. > > > > So are Synctuary, SyncThing, SparkleShare, etc. > > > > Bill Cattey's answer is the correct one. > > > > What happens when your sync storage disk fails? You lose everything. So > > you get a RAID setup. What happens when the RAID controller goes stupid > and > > scribbles garbage all over the disk? You lose everything. So you go to a > > big, safe cloud provider. What happens when the data center's power grids > > get hit by lightning four times in rapid succession? Maybe you lose > > everything. > > > > If it isn't on media that can be physically detached and stored securely > > (fire box, safe deposit box, etc.) then it isn't a backup. At best it is > > the first step in creating backups; at worst it is permanent data loss > > begging to happen. > > > > -- > > Rich P. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- ><> ... Jack The Four Boxes of Liberty - "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order." "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart"... Colossians 3:23 "Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new." - Albert Einstein "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hopper, USN "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Ben Franklin _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
