On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 00:28:06 -0400 Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Rich Pieri <richard.pi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Yes, you > > can break the dependency chains but that's not the same thing as not > > having the dependencies. > > > > ​Probably time to ask ... > > What's the state of Systemd-free variant distros? The state is good. This is an excellent time for those not allowing systemd on their computers. I've used Void Linux for 9 months, and it's wonderful. It inits with the runit init system, which in my opinion is better than sysvinit, which in my opinion is better than systemd, which in my opinion is better than a computer whose mobo has swollen and popped capacitors. Void requires some tech chops, though not nearly as many as Funtoo. Funtoo is a compile-to-install distro like Gentoo, but has made the pledge of being systemd-free forever. If you like a compile-it-yourself rolling release, Funtoo's ideal. Devuan is Debian Jessie with sysvinit instead of systemd. I've used it, it works well. Alpine is a sans-systemd distro that's so light weight that Docker recommends it. Apearantly its footprint is an order of magnitude smaller than all the rest. Manjaro-OpenRC swaps in OpenRC instead of systemd. My experience from 18 months ago is that it works well, but various bugs make you do little adjustments to keep it running. Any computer initted by OpenRC or sysvinit can easily be retrofit to init via runit, s6 or Epoch, each of which I have high regard for. OpenBSD and FreeBSD currently don't use systemd or anything like it. Here's a list of other distros reputedly not using systemd: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions With all these excellent distros around, the only reason to use systemd is because you like it, because you don't care, because your employer/client forces it upon you, or because you've drunk the Kool-aid. SteveT Steve Litt September 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss