2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@openoffice.org>: > Andras Timar wrote: >> 2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti: >> > Being the maintainer of the Italian dictionary package, I'm sad to see >> > LibreOffice trashing my work (and doing the same with other >> > community-contributed dictionary packages, like Danish as seen in this >> > thread) without explanation. >> >> The word "trashing" is maybe a bit strong in my opinion. > > Yes, it has to be taken in the scope I was referring to (i.e., for > language packs for Linux-based systems), not in general. > >> I think general Linux builds should include the dictionaries > > I agree, of course. But this is not happening at the moment, is it? And > if it isn't, how can we propose to change it?
Developers are reading this list I suppose, but you can file a bug, too. Let's see, if they follow up here in the next few days. > >> and distro specific builds should exclude them and should >> ship current system wide dictionary packages at the same time. > > Well, here indeed the problem should be discussed. I comment on a > previous message of yours: > >> Using system wide dictionaries makes sense in case of >> spellcheckers, a lot of programs use them. > > If if we had only spellcheckers, I could agree on this. > >> However, I'm not sure if hyphenation patterns are used by anything >> other than LibO (Scribus maybe?). > > They are in practically all cases converted from LaTeX, but I don't know > if there is other software using the hyphenation patterns in the > OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice format. > >> I also don't know if thesaurus can be used by other software >> than LibO. > > Me neither, but here the tools used are OOo-specific (resp., > LibreOffice-specific!) so I doubt there are other use cases. > I disagree. Hunspell, hyphen and mythes are generic libraries (and they are not OOo-specific). They could be used in other free software products, e.g. in KOffice, Firefox etc. in the future. >> It should be discussed, because not all Linux distributions >> package all dictionaries for all languages, or the packages may be >> outdated. > > And this is a good point. Moreover, I will add that: > 1) N-L Projects usually supply a full package (spellchecker+hyphenation > +thesaurus) and I wouldn't feel confident in shipping it partially. > 2) Components cannot be assumed to be independent: there is interaction > between the spellchecker and thesaurus (if you right-click a plural > word, the singular form is extracted using the spellchecker and the > synonyms are found for the singular form). > 3) Unfortunately it seems that integration can go even deeper, like > http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=3592 > > Based on this, I would recommend to stay on the safe side and include > the full package in all versions, unless one can prove that removing the > spellchecker and using the system one (or using none) will not affect > operations. > I agree with your final conclusion. I'd like add that now - thanks to the more liberal commit rules of LibreOffice - we can make sure, that LibreOffice git always contains the latest versions of dictionaries. Regards, Andras -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
