On 11/23/2010 02:50 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 23 November 2010 21:25, Andy Brown <a...@the-martin-byrd.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue Nov 23 2010 12:36:35 GMT-0800 (PST)  Robert Derman wrote:
>>
>>  Assuming that it is, I think the primary users manual should focus on
>>> Writer, with just one chapter on each of the other modules, and a pointer to
>>> where to download a more extensive manual on each.  Where I disagree with
>>> most who write in, is that I think that a basic manual like I describe
>>> *should be in the download package*.  In order to keep it small for that
>>> reason, it should be in ODF format not PDF, and it should be formatted for
>>> an 8.5x11 page rather than the usual 5x7 so that it would be practical for
>>> the user to print out without the horrendous paper waste of the 5x7 format.
>>>  (Remember all printer paper comes in 8.5x11 or similar) Also keeping it to
>>> 100 pages or less will both keep the download size down, and encourage users
>>> to actually print a hard copy.  (a hard copy is very useful because you can
>>> read in the manual while using the software) I find help often less than
>>> helpful simply because it can be difficult to both read how to do a thing
>>> and simultaneously do it.    I recognize that a much longer and more
>>> detailed manual is required to completely cover subjects like Styles, but
>>> for all beginners, and most other users a manual like I just described is
>>> what's needed.  Probably organized with an introduction to the most used
>>> commands, then a tutorial, then a reference section.
>>>
>>
>> There are two of your points I would like to comment on.
>>
>> First, use ODF instead of PDF.  If a person wishes to view the installation
>> part of the document before they install the software then they are out of
>> luck.
>>
>> Second, where do you get the idea that the documents are formated to 5x7
>> paper size?  None of the documents I have seen have been formated for that
>> size paper.  All the docs from the OOoAuthors site are in fact formated for
>> paper size A4.  The PDFs can be printed two-up on 8.5x11 paper.
>>
>>
> There are some good manuals for OOo - Gabriel Gurley's "A conceptual Guide
> to OpenOffice.org 3" and the OpenOffice.org Authors publications. However, I
> think what is needed is an on-line tutorial system that leads to
> certification. That is really what we will be aiming at with the LO
> certification that we are meeting about in Berlin. If we can get EU funding,
> we can produce an on-line tutorial system for each of the components of LO
> in several languages with links to screen casts to demonstrate how to do
> things. Link those to the assessment criteria and you have a fully supported
> learning system. There is then the possibility of linking the LO help system
> to this. Make it free for all to use but charge people who need
> certification a small amount for the certification part and you have an
> income to make it sustainable and to contribute back for development.

I think I like this proposal of yours.  Basically, you're saying the
training is free, but the certification costs.  That would definitely
make it accessible to people like me.

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