Anyway, I don´t consider PDF a proper "OPEN" standard, as it´s not
designed by a global consortium like OASIS.

What about designing a new file format for this purpose and being part
of OpenDocument? Some people said DjVu being accurate but lacking some
features (vectorial image support?).

I'm not a developer at all, but I think OpenDocument format family
should evolve in this direction some day. PDF-based ISO standard
follows a lying way similar to Mono and .NET: the open standard lags
behind the official implementation. This is a very dangerous trap that
is still giving too much advantages to Adobe over competitors.


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 June 2011 01:15, Sean White <runicpala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I dont thinks thats normal somehow, i have been using Adobe Reader for
>> years
>> and have NEVER had it come past 200MB.
>>
>
> ISTR a whole load of adverising crap in one large Acrobat download.
>
> Back to discussion, what's with all the PDF hate.
>
>
> Not hate, irritation by misuse.  Hundreds of files to download that could
> simply be in HTML pages (as Alexandro indicated). We get stuff originated in
> whatever app and distributed in pdf format when it will never ever get
> printed. In fact mostly you can produce a pdf from a web page if you really
> need to anyway. I have 100 page application forms from the EU in Acrobat
> that need huge hardware resources just to be usable. This stuff should be in
> client server databases operated through web browsers not desktop pdf files.
> I accept all this as transition noise as we move to mobile technologies and
> the web. pdf was not originally designed for these purposes, it was designed
> for systems putting the information on to paper and has been extended and
> bloated accordingly. Arguably, rather like Office applications ;-).
>
>  It serves a very good
>> purpose a standard, editable document that shows up exactly how you want it
>> WHEREVER you are and whatever OS you are using.
>
>
> Not disputing that. If you want distribute a document accurately for
> printing on paper, use pdf.
>
>
>> this has always been its
>> use and so it falls in a different document category to ODF.  ODF is an
>> office format created to compete with MSO's doc, xls an ppt formats.  to
>> essentially modify the underlying purpose to make it behave more like a PDF
>> would waste most of what we have put into it.
>>
>
> I agree, so let's look at the future and that is the web and mobile
> tecnologies. How do we get LibO to the web? That would be a far better
> priority for the use of resources.
>
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