> On 10 Mar 2022, at 20:22, Taras Heichenko <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2022, at 17:47, Hisham Ibrahim <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Peace.

Peace Taras, 


> 
>>      • The RIPE NCC will postone organising the upcoming ENOG 19 / RIPE NCC 
>> Regional Meeting, originally planned to be held 20-21 June 2022, Moscow, 
>> Russia.
>> 
>> Needless to say, the question of whether the ENOG meetings carry on and in 
>> what form is ultimately a matter for the community to decide and, when that 
>> time comes, the RIPE NCC will be happy to sponsor the event as it does for 
>> other community-led Network Operator Groups in the service region.
> 
> The population of Russia is greater than the overall population of other 
> countries from the ENOG region. What way of voting do you propose?

Taras, you know very well that a sense of community can not be faked or forced. 

> 
>> 
>> 
>>      • The RIPE NCC will reallocate the funds budgeted for holding the ENOG 
>> event towards organising more local engagements throughout the Eurasian 
>> region. 
> 
> Something tells me that I should not wait for the RIPE events in Ukraine 
> soon. May I ask you where do you plan to invest money for the next events?

I am happy to share with you some of the things we had already started working 
on based on community feedback and identified local needs.

- Local community events / NOG support
The RIPE NCC provides funding through sponsorship for local NOGs and sends 
staff to speak or attend at a wide range of local community events in our 
service region.
To name a few from the region AM, GE and soon KZ.

If there are any local community events / NOGs that require RIPE NCC support 
please mail us at: [email protected] 

We also have a NOG organisers list: 
https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/nog-org
And I see Alex Semenyaka added as a representative of UANOG.

- RIPE NCC Days
RIPE NCC Day provide a forum for network engineers and other technical staff to 
share knowledge and experiences, and learn more about how they can receive 
support from the RIPE NCC in various avenues – including technical, policy 
development and training. The upcoming event is planned to be held in UZ
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/regional-meetings/ripe-ncc-days-tashkent/ripe-ncc-days-tashkent

- Internet Measurement Days:
The Internet Measurement Day is a series of events organised by the RIPE NCC 
and ICANN promoting Internet measurement tools to local communities across the 
RIPE NCC service region. I would imagine these events will become more popular 
very soon. 
The last event was held virtually with the GE community.
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/internet-measurement-day/internet-measurement-day-georgia

- ISOC, EuroIX and the RIPE NCC have started last year an online event called 
the virtual peering series - Central Asia.
The Virtual Peering Series is open to all network operators, content providers, 
government, academic and other public institutions, as well as industry 
associations primarily in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and 
Uzbekistan (although others with an interest in the region are also welcome).
https://www.internetsociety.org/events/virtual-peering-series-central-asia/

As the world goes back to some version of normal, we are planning on 
kickstarting a physical peering event with community members interested in 
peering and interconnection in these countries.

- Open houses:
The RIPE NCC Open House is a ninety-minute remote session where RIPE NCC staff, 
community members and industry experts can meet up and share insights, feedback 
and support. We already have a session that will focus on the Central Asian 
Internet community that will be held on the 30th of March.
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-internet-in-central-asia

As the world goes back to some version of normal, we are planning on going back 
to in-person national meetings like member lunches as well as technical 
training workshops. of course for areas that we are not be able to travel to we 
still offer a large range of online technical workshops through:
The training webinars https://www.ripe.net/support/training/webinars
and RIPE academy: https://academy.ripe.net/

As I mentioned in my previous email there will be a RIPE Labs article produced 
soon with more details on our community development key focus areas. However, I 
did want to list a few of them in this email so that the the mailing list 
members can begin to think of what kind of additional engagement / support they 
would like to see from the RIPE NCC to support their local needs.

I hope this was useful.
Regards
Hisham Ibrahim
Chief Community Officer 
RIPE NCC


>> 
>> I would imagine that the peering and interconnection landscape in the region 
>> will see major changes in the coming months. The RIPE NCC will be able to 
>> support the local communities with workshops, presentations and measurements 
>> customised to the development needs of the local technical communities. 
>> 
>>      • The RIPE NCC will increase its technical capabilities throughout the 
>> Eurasian region to support the local communities with their needs.
>> 
>> We currently have staff based in Armenia, Russia and Ukraine and will be 
>> looking over the next few months to add more technical experts to support 
>> the additional plans of engagement with the community. 
>> 
>> For more information on our External Engagement and Community plans, please 
>> refer to our Activity Plan and Budget 2022:
>> https://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-773.pdf
>> 
>> We will be publishing a RIPE Labs article soon with more details on our 
>> community development key focus areas throughout the RIPE NCC service region 
>> and as always we look to our community for feedback on how to best serve 
>> their development and engagement needs.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hisham Ibrahim
>> Chief Community Officer
>> RIPE NCC 
>> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2022, at 02:43, Töma Gavrichenkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, —
>>> because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
>>> 
>>> As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators
>>> Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE
>>> Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential
>>> future meetings indefinitely.
>>> 
>>> Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE
>>> Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian,
>>> Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional
>>> communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space
>>> among the communities.
>>> 
>>> In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said
>>> "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be
>>> clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all
>>> the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at
>>> the time.
>>> 
>>> Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've
>>> gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have
>>> several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore
>>> don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
>>> 
>>> Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe
>>> I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region
>>> to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold
>>> any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I
>>> hereby step down as the PC Chair.
>>> 
>>> It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide
>>> on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act.  It
>>> is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future
>>> alignments to replace ENOG.
>>> 
>>> Stay safe.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Töma
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [email protected]
>>> https://lists.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/pc
>> 
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> 
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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