Thomas Levine <[email protected]> writes:
>I'd like to move away from my wonderful, integrated, proprietary,
>web-based Google Services Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Lists and
>Google Docs. I ask for suggestions of what to move to.
>
>[...]
>
>I *love* Google Lists for entering school assignment due dates, but
>it's currently very closed, with no importing or exporting.

For what it's worth, I think Google's "Data Liberation Front" [1] plans
to implement export for every Google service.  Their policy is pretty
clear -- they've been very public about it -- and the engineering is
under way.  Some services are already done, others aren't yet.

Note that this includes APIs, not just human-based "click to export".

So if they haven't gotten to Google Lists yet, it's probably just a
matter of time.  I don't know how much time, of course.  (Disclaimer: I
used to work there, but I have no financial interest in Google today.)

I'm not sure what a free-as-in-freedom service would look like, in the
sense that even if you had all of Google's code, you still wouldn't have
Google (as Tim O'Reilly put it), because you can't realistically deploy
that stuff without an ops team like theirs.  It seems to me that any
online service offering a similar level of features and reliability will
be in a similar situation.  But if you want to run your own, I find
EtherPad quite nice for online document collaboration.

-Karl

[1] dataliberation.org
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