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On Sunday, June 16, 2013, Bob Kosovsky wrote: > I've known about the issues with "Happy Birthday" for many years. (I > believe there's a permanent display of documents involved in a previous > court ruling on this song at the NY offices of the National Archives.) One > of the issues is that many people have assumed that a version earlier than > the 1935 publication existed, but that version has never been found. As > copyright law depends on fixed versions, we would need to see this earlier > version claimed by the documentarian to make a determination. To me it's > not clear from that scribd.com document that such an earlier version has > been found. If the copyright really did expire in 1921 on that version > (making it public domain), why isn't it all over the Internet? Until we > see proof that an earlier version existed, I don't think it's wise to weigh > on the issue. > > Bob Kosovsky > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case < > danc...@frontiernet.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > 'danc...@frontiernet.net');>> wrote: > >> As some of you may be aware, a documentary filmmaker here in the >> Southern District of New York has filed the intellectual-property lawsuit >> everybody has been waiting a long time for, arguing that the copyright om >> “Happy Birthday to You” is invalid and seeking the return of not only the >> licensing fee she paid but all the royalties that Warner/Chappell collected >> from filmmakers since 2009 (i.e., “on behalf of herself and others >> similarly situated,” as the saying goes) >> >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/nyregion/lawsuit-aims-to-strip-happy-birthday-to-you-of-its-copyright.html >> >> Filing itself is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/147645129/Happybirthday. >> It relies heavily on a 68-page paper by a GWU law professor arguing that >> any copyright that might have attached to the song would have expired in >> 1921, and that the song itself may have been a derivative work of a >> mid-19th century composition and thus did not meet the threshold of >> originality to begin with. >> >> Is it possible that. either ourselves or (probably preferable) through >> the Free Culture Alliance, we could file an *amicus* brief in support of >> the plaintiffs, as part of our mission of promoting free content? In light >> of last year’s *Golan v. Holder* Supreme Court decision restoring >> copyright to foreign works that had previously been in the public domain, >> the success of a lawsuit like this seeking to break the copyright on a >> popular little ditty that shouldn’t be the subject of rent-seeking could >> only help the free-culture cause. The success of the foundation’s projects >> despite (or perhaps because of) our deliberate choice of a minimally >> restrictive IP regime would be something to point to in such a filing. >> >> Daniel Case >> >> Daniel Case >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Wikimedia NYC Board" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to wikimedia-nyc-board+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e({}, >> 'cvml', >> 'wikimedia-nyc-board%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> wikimedia-nyc-bo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> 'wikimedia-nyc-bo...@googlegroups.com');> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikimedia-nyc-board. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts, > Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts > blog: http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44 Twitter: @kos2 > Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-TALK ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users > - My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Wikimedia NYC Board" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to wikimedia-nyc-board+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', > 'wikimedia-nyc-board%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');>. > To post to this group, send email to > wikimedia-nyc-bo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > 'wikimedia-nyc-bo...@googlegroups.com');> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikimedia-nyc-board. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >
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