Blair McKenzie wrote:
I have to admit that I would like better support for classic "code"
(on top of the standard tag based syntax). Luckily there seems to be a
very good chance that ActionScript will get folded into ColdFusion at
some point, and that's very similar to JS.
JavaScript and ActionScript both are built around ECMA Script. "Adobe
and Mozilla are both active participants in the ECMA International
Programming Language technical committee (TC39-TG1) developing the
ECMAScript Edition 4 (ES4) standard."
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200611/110706Mozilla.html
I've gotten used to the tag based coding. Also, you can put code between
cfscript tags, and not have to (and in deed cannot) use any CFML tags.
Look for examples of code like this on CFLib.org
Cheers,
Chris
Blair
On 11/23/06, *Paul McLanahan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
I have one vote against CF. I do know that it is both easy and
powerful, and I certainly don't knock it for that. But it's yet
another closed-source platform. I'm no open-source zealot, however the
prospect of moving several sites from CF to another solution because
Adobe kills it or is bought my MS or goes in a direction you don't
like, is daunting. I like having full control over the platform. I
like being able to take my code and go home if the project wants to go
in another direction. I like to be able to propose and submit
code to
my platform of choice. And I really like knowing that the whims of an
executive board can't make me change my code.
I say this from experience. I've been in situations where we've bought
some portal solution or web platform, only to have it go in a
direction that doesn't fit our customizations a year later, and we
were left holding the bag. It was awful and we were left with a very
expensive POS.
I know CF has been around for a long time. It was one of the first
web
platforms on which I developed, but I much prefer PHP, Ruby, Python or
even Perl now because of the reasons I mentioned. In the Enterprise
space you don't have a good open-source option until Java is fully
open, but for apps like you are proposing some good ole PHP+MySQL is
too good and ubiquitous to pass up. And like others have said, if you
need the structure, use Symfony, Cake, RoR or another framework.
Another reason I don't like CF is the actual code. It just feels like
you're not coding. I enjoy writing code and programming, and <cfloop>
just doesn't feel right to me, but that's just a personal preference.
Writing Ruby is euphoric. It's just beautiful code. But, it's not
very
prevalent yet (though I do love RoR). Hosts for RoR are harder to find
that CF. Writing PHP is utilitarian in that you can get in and get out
easily and it just works. And now with version 5 the object
orientation features no longer suck. I haven't tried Python yet
though
I really want to. I've seen apps built on Python (Trac) and they are
great. And while Perl is powerful, I just don't feel right using it
to write web apps, and it can be very difficult to read.
This is certainly nothing against the CF devs here. I know that
CF is
very much available, easy, powerful, etc., etc.. But, I'm just gun-shy
about devoting so much of my time to a platform over which I can exert
no control.
Paul
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