JET, The economic realities are what I'm alluding to, not how practice should be. The reality is that coding is a commodity akin to other craftspeople and that is a different problem. Designers who are craftspeople are similarly in the same position. The designers who are looking towards converged design and transdisciplinary business management that are moving (for now) beyond the commodity.
I like how Dan spun my take a bit. respect those that do the building. That is definitely true. What I dislike is the assumption that they get my respect and not visa versa. That their implicit role is all that is necessary for them to earn my respect, yet I have to change my entire framework and language system to gain theirs. My major point here though is that this discussion about agile has been framed incorrectly. Alan's talk is part of a reframing and I appreciate that effort. I disagree with his attempt, but agree with its necessity. As I said recently on Twitter. I believe in the power of Big Design Up Front. Alan seems to be trying to cover it up w/ language that softens the blow and say that the people doing it now are better than the people who did it before, but he doesn't quite fess up to what he's asking for. I often fall back on Buxton's talks that fight the push towards agile when he talks about how software dev folks have tried to reframe design to fit there, as opposed to reframe dev to fit design. Design in other areas is very upfront and doesn't really seem to be problematic. It is indeed iterative and collaborative, but definitely up front. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48622 ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
