And here lies the issue with devops at large organizations. You need exceptional people (or people willing to be exceptional) for this to work. It doesn't scale as easily as ITIL/COBIT.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Troy Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > A lot of devops depends on having systems engineers who code[1] and > developers who own production apps post-deployment - because both roles are > filled by a single person. It's a team of people who individually wear both > hats. > > Contrast with having engineers who are developers and engineers who are > sysadmins. Maybe they operate as a single group, and maybe they work really > well together. That's good management, no fancy name needed. > > The key here is that ~everyone has a fairly complete picture of both the > codebase and the operations, so they can see end-to-end solutions. One day > might be writing a Sinatra app that's a core part of the product, the next > day is writing the puppet recipe to deploy it, and the third day is actually > deploying it, spinning up a couple VMs, and configuring load balancer VIPs. > Same person. > > Where it gets a slippery is what percent of the combined team needs to be > that cross-functional. 100% is a completely reasonable target (and how to > pull off http://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+%22users+per+engineer%22). > Something over 75% is not bad. Under 50% is developers and sysadmins working > well together. Great, just not devops. > > [1]: I don't mean someone who can write a Perl script when they need to, > but rather someone who could be a full-time developer if they chose to (and > usually has been in the past, in that more come out of dev than ops). The > best devops engineer will have, at different times, been a full-time > developer and the primary ops contact for a customer-facing service. > > Troy > > -- > read my mind: http://twitter.com/troyd > log to the cloud: https://papertrailapp.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > >
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