Thank you all for your input. I hadn't actually considered fighting to keep my title as-is (which is what I prefer). I think the issue that these new bosses are wrestling with is the changed job description. Since this role will be less a "traditional" Ops role and will involve more coding, they felt Sr. SysAdmin didn't fit anymore. But that's not actually what DevOps is right? It's Dev and Ops working together, not an SA with a compiler or *gasp* a developer with sudo. I will definitely recommend keeping my title untouched. But maybe just alter the job description a bit to formalize their expectations.
On 5/8/2014 7:37 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > I'd say we loosely consider "Systems Engineer" to be a higher level > position or role that "Systems Administrator". More of an > architectural or design component to it rather than solely "operate". > > I've worked plenty of places where it was just "Systems Administrator" > however. Smaller shops have even said just to pick your own title. :) > > If your org has a clear role difference between someone focusing on > DevOps style work and a more traditional Systems Administration > task-set, it would seem to make sense to have a title to help > delineate. > > Ray > > On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:30:15PM -0400, Will Dennis wrote: >> On a tangent, I think the use of the word "Engineer" in IT job titles >> is a bit pretentious... I don't think our "profession" is yet >> rigorous enough to warrant that title... >> >> On the other hand, the dictionary defines the word's etymology as >> "one who designs or devises" [from scientific principles] and/or >> "cleverness". I think that applies, in the best of our >> practitioners... I just wouldn't stack our profession's >> training/qualifications against that of Physical Engineers, for >> instance. >> >> Nothing wrong with "Systems Administration" in my opinion... That is >> what I do. I may do it with the principles espoused in the "DevOps" >> movement, but it doesn't change what I do (job responsibilities), but >> just how I do it (hopefully for the better.) >> >> W. >> >>> On May 8, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Michael Johnson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone here changed their job title (or had it changed) to reflect >>> the more DevOps culture companies seem to be adopting? I have actually >>> seen people use DevOps in their job title, but that feels wrong to me. >>> How do you go from a Senior Systems Administrator to something like >>> Senior DevOps Engineer? What would a job description for something like >>> this even be? I have the privilege of being able to influence this >>> title, but I am having trouble defining it since most SAs and Devs seem >>> to disagree on what DevOps even is. >>> >>> So I thought I'd turn to my colleagues at LOPSA first since I'm sure >>> many of you have at least thought of this before. >>> >>> Head Chef? Master Puppeteer? _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
