About 5 years ago, (15 years into doing SA), I decided to seek out my peers... 
and I went looking for a professional organization. LOPSA was it. I looked at 
Usenix/SAGE/LISA and 1) it appeared to have an identity crisis, certainly 
wasn't a "oh, this is where I belong!" sort of click/fit. Years later, I've 
learned a little of the history of the split, and it does appear (having just 
now looked again) that Usenix/LISA is not the "go-to" spot for SAs.

Clearly USENIX has it's stuff together as an organization, but it's not an 
organization specifically *for* SAs. But, it seems to me, everything LOPSA 
does, *could* be done as a special interest group(SIG) within USENIX.

-- Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name


On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:50 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:

As far as I can see, SAGE has basically died off. A couple years ago they 
renamed SAGE to LISA, but from what I can see there's not much there now.

David Lang

On Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Will Dennis wrote:

> I know LOPSA and USENIX are on speaking terms now... Has anyone from the 
> LOPSA BoD reached out to USENIX BoD and explored a consolidation of SAGE and 
> LOPSA? IMHO, one of these org's should be folded into another (yes, yes, I 
> know the old history of LOPSA's founding; let the past stay in the past...) I 
> don't know why we'd need *two* professional org's for SA's to continue... 
> Seems to me that USENIX is the stronger org by far (and has the requisite 
> support structure in place already), and so LOPSA as it stands today (i.e. 
> mailing lists and mentorship program) could be easily folded into SAGE (heck, 
> SAGE already has the mailing list...)
> 
> Maybe I don't have all the details here, but that's the way it seems to me...
> 
> W.
> 
> On  Monday, March 02, 2015 12:59 PM Derek J. Balling wrote:
> 
>  On 3/2/2015 12:48 PM, Martin James Gehrke wrote:
>  > This is one man's opinion: What is the best use of our membership dues
>  > at this moment?
> 
> To re-iterate a suggestion I made earlier: Donated to a comparable 
> organization, such as USENIX, followed by dissolution. LOPSA is, at best, 
> redundant and ineffective at this point.
> 
> D
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