On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Evan Pettrey <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey folks,

As I'm sure many of you have already seen, USENIX is shutting down LISA 
SIG/SAGE.

Any thoughts? Does this impact LOPSA in any way? Is this an indication of the 
changing industry or simply a failing special interest group?

I wonder what the membership levels were of LISA SIG over the past five years 
or so? I can only speculate on what might have been in the collective mind of 
the USENIX Board. Perhaps someone more connected to the USENIX Board has some 
insight to share. My very general speculations on "why" …
Not a "profitable" group any more. If membership declined significantly, the 
cost involved in managing a separate sub-organization might have eclipsed the 
revenue. Unlike some organizational models, where full paid membership is 
required of all, and then adding special interest groups to membership costs 
extra ... LISA SIG was a standalone membership fee. So they are eliminating the 
discount for people who are only interested in the sysadmin aspects of USENIX’s 
mission.

Lack of leadership / active membership interest? LISA SIG isn't the only 
organization to have these problems lately. This might be a part of a "bigger 
picture" change that is not unique to professional organizations ... I have 
seen it in the cultural and recreational organization space as well. This 
Internet thing we’ve created has changed society in many ways, and one of them 
is that we don’t have to all show up in one place in order to learn, exchange 
ideas or have a focused community of interest. That is is one of the major 
functions that professional organizations served. At some point in people’s 
lives, they start to look at the “value proposition” of their own expenditures, 
both in terms of cash and in terms of where they put their energy and their 
“excess professional time.”

They have realized that calling it LISA SIG was just not a good choice. The 
LISA conference is, hopefully, still profitable or at least breaking even. 
Conflating a successful conference with a stagnating SIG might not be a formula 
for long term survival/success of USENIX.

${Insert some snarky reference here about how sysadmins are all becoming 
“DevOps Engineers” now}.

LOPSA “won.”  :-)

How could this impact LOPSA?

Assuming that there is still some bifurcation in the sysadmin community since 
the SAGE/LOPSA/LISA SIG mess, perhaps there will be a few more dedicated people 
interested in helping make LOPSA succeed. That would be good.

It might drive an increase in paid memberships, as well as improve the 
visibility and credibility of LOPSA. That would be good too.

It’s a sign of things to come for LOPSA. That would not be so good.


Is the industry changing?  If you are looking at the fact that professionals 
with exactly the same skill sets and doing exactly the same things who call 
themselves “DevOps” instead of “Systems Administrators” are getting inundated 
by job recruiters these days, then, IMHO … nothing has changed. It’s all about 
Buzzwords and the Methodology Flavor of the Month. Call me a neckbeardy old 
dinosaur, but after twenty-five years as a sysadmin, it seems to me that we are 
still doing what we’ve always done, and the people who hire us, manage us, 
depend on us [and eventually blame us after they ignore our suggestions and 
things go FUBAR] still don’t really understand us.

All I know for sure is that in December, when I decided to pony up for 
membership, I “guessed wrong” about which organization was going to last 
longer.  [1]

_rob_

[1] Actually, my paid membership to LOPSA lapsed and nobody / nothing ever 
bothered to remind me to renew it.
--
Rob Jenson - *nix Systems Administrator
Email: ferthalangur {at) gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>  or rbj (at} spotch.com 
<http://spotch.com/>
| ferthalangur @ Almost everything on the Internet

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